• Right? People keep thinking Lincoln was some kind of friend to black people but he had his general investigate if he could ship them all back to Africa after the civil war. The response was “We can’t beat their replacement rate”, and that’s how that plan died. He never viewed white people as equal to black people otherwise he would have done a lot more than fight a war against a secession…

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      Get your facts right before you start spreading lies. Liberia began being settled by formerly enslaved Americans around 1820. When Abe Lincoln was 11 years old. Abe was also pretty progressive compared to most White Americans in his racist beliefs. By today’s standards, he was racist. But he was for his time about as progressive as was possible for a white man to be in public without being subject to murder by slavers. And guess what, he was murdered by slavers.

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        I can hardly believe that the South and North can live in peace unless we get rid of the Negroes. Certainly they cannot, if we don’t get rid of the Negroes whom we have armed and disciplined and who have fought with us, I believe, to the amount of 150,000 men. I believe it would be better to export them all…

        https://archive.org/details/autobiographyper0192butl page 903

        i can’t find the exact source, it was in the memoirs of the general he wrote this to. I can look later when I have access to my laptop again but rest assured it is real and Lincoln was very much in favor of Liberia.

        and no, he was no john brown. Other choice lincoln quotes:

        https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/usa/government/potus-lincoln-woke.htm

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          And this has exactly what to do with what I posted? Except what happened to Lincoln was the same that happened to John Brown except John Brown was lawfully murdered. When Lincoln was alive, it could and did cost white men their lives to be anti racist.

          • Calm down lol, it’s like I attacked you personally lmao.

            The link is that you claimed that I “lied” and should “get my facts straight”, so I linked the reference that I was referring to. And no Lincoln was murdered for not being racist enough, John Brown was murdered for actually opposing racism. I don’t know what you mean by it cost “white men their lives to be anti racist” as if there was an army of them trying to save black people or whatever, but yeah the society was so cartoonishly evil and racist that the mere illusion to improve the situation of the black workers could cost someone their life.