As long as you can point to a country you believe is doing worse there is no reason to want yours to do better. You are just mainlining that propaganda aren’t you?
“America is the greatest country on earth!”*
*Not due to actually being great in any way, just due to the fact that we believe other countries are at least slightly worse, and that’s good enough for me!
No one actually suggested you quit your job. YOU’RE the one that said that and I was pointing out the absurdity that that is the first and only place you go. Are you lost?
I am, and frankly I find the default assumption that the people criticizing ineffective action aren’t engaged in effective action to be extremely condescending.
The people the rest of the world has been warning for decades that this very situation would occur if you kept doing what you were doing? The people who got belligerent and shitty when we pointed out the path they were on? Easy to criticize them? Yeah, it very much is.
This is Lemmy, the vast majority of Americans here lean hard left. We knew. What exactly were we supposed to do? Die immediately in an immature revolution? Magically devise the perfect argument to overcome a century of anti-left propaganda?
This reminds me of a recurrent thing in life: someone competes following a set of rules, and the other player doesn’t follow them. Of course that gives them an advantage.
There are two logical options to make the game fair again:
1)finding a way to make the second player follow the original rules
No, you’re right, you’ve done plenty. You should feel very pleased with your effort. You deserve a rest, even. Have yourself a nap and I promise nobody will wake you up to tell you how goofy it is that you just called Americans on Lemmy “hard left” 😅
Honestly? People who are living paycheck to paycheck have MORE reasons to risk everything and FAR fewer excuses for allowing the status quo to persist. Who the fuck do you think should be burning shit down if not the people most victimized by it?
You probably also have access to food and basic infrastructure and services. That gives you incentive not to risk your life violently overthrowing the government.
Careful, every American on Lemmy has about 6 or 7 thought-stopping cliches ready to defend their cowardly fucking inaction.
Inaction like this? (warning - video is bloody) https://mastodon.social/@Ulfh3dnar/115181548207581457
I am more than pleased to be proven wrong.
This pleases you?! That is fucking sickening.
It does. Greatly. Every time I’ve checked my phone for about a year I’ve been disappointed not to see today’s headline.
The fact that you’re posting this means you’re not dead or in prison, which thought-stopping cliche will you use to explain your cowardly inaction?
Or maybe I don’t live in a shithole country?
lmao yeah right chud. They’re all shitholes especially yours.
As long as you can point to a country you believe is doing worse there is no reason to want yours to do better. You are just mainlining that propaganda aren’t you?
“America is the greatest country on earth!”*
*Not due to actually being great in any way, just due to the fact that we believe other countries are at least slightly worse, and that’s good enough for me!
I guess I should quit my job and condemn my family to destitution because some guy on Lemmy called me a pussy for not fighting the government. Rofl.
Right, that’s what the rest of the world is waiting on Americans to do: quit their job.
“Do nothing” is so ingrained in the American psyche that when pushed to do something the only thing they can think of is doing even less.
No. I’m not quitting my job. That’s the dumbest fucking thing anyone could suggest. Grow up.
If there’s a general strike, I’ll participate. Quitting my job and condemning my family to starve? Fuck outta here with that childish nonsense.
No one actually suggested you quit your job. YOU’RE the one that said that and I was pointing out the absurdity that that is the first and only place you go. Are you lost?
Put a /s on it then, moron.
Didn’t see an /s on your post. Felt the sarcasm in response to sarcasm was pretty obvious. But great deflection from what was actually being said!
/S
It sure is easy to criticize people for inaction when you’re at no risk yourself.
Inaction isn’t going to keep you safe.
Neither is poorly planned action.
I sure hope that means you are involved in planning actions instead of using it as an excuse to do nothing.
I am, and frankly I find the default assumption that the people criticizing ineffective action aren’t engaged in effective action to be extremely condescending.
The assumption comes from the current lack of action in general.
The people the rest of the world has been warning for decades that this very situation would occur if you kept doing what you were doing? The people who got belligerent and shitty when we pointed out the path they were on? Easy to criticize them? Yeah, it very much is.
This is Lemmy, the vast majority of Americans here lean hard left. We knew. What exactly were we supposed to do? Die immediately in an immature revolution? Magically devise the perfect argument to overcome a century of anti-left propaganda?
This reminds me of a recurrent thing in life: someone competes following a set of rules, and the other player doesn’t follow them. Of course that gives them an advantage.
There are two logical options to make the game fair again:
1)finding a way to make the second player follow the original rules
2)accepting the new game with its changed rules
No, you’re right, you’ve done plenty. You should feel very pleased with your effort. You deserve a rest, even. Have yourself a nap and I promise nobody will wake you up to tell you how goofy it is that you just called Americans on Lemmy “hard left” 😅
WHY ARENT YOU GUYS DOING ANYTHING BUT POSTING ON THE INTERNET? does nothing but post on the internet
Did you miss the part where they don’t live in the US? Do you lack reading comprehension or is this just your go to thought stopping cliche?
Probably don’t want to die tbh
Do you expect people who are living paycheck to paycheck to give up their lives to die, be homeless or permanently disabled?
Honestly? People who are living paycheck to paycheck have MORE reasons to risk everything and FAR fewer excuses for allowing the status quo to persist. Who the fuck do you think should be burning shit down if not the people most victimized by it?
Right, let me book a flight to another country whose citizens can’t be bothered to fight back on their own to show them how it’s done.
sure just advocate for violence that you wouldnt commit yourself.
Didn’t say I wouldn’t. Just said I’m not going to fly to other countries to do it.
Do you imagine people in Nepal to have big savings accounts and investments in NVidia?
Truth is - if you are not bothered enough by the situation to risk your confort and way of life, then you are ok with the situation and accept it.
What a wild take.
Im so glad most of this type of discourse is contained to a platform like Lemmy. This place is basically 4chan for armchair leftists.
Yeah, this place shockingly has less nuance than Reddit did. Maybe not shockingly, since it seems to cater to a very specific group of people.
You’re a “good german”, is all.
Thanks for proving my point lmao. Im a “good german” because id rather not suffer irreparable damage to my body and psyche.
Jesus christ. The only people who talk like this are highly privileged idiots.
100%. Anyone pretending to disagree with this is just trying to assuage their guilt for being huge cowards.
Criticize them to the core, and they write a robot replier just for you.
FYI, this user is a rage bait troll. everything they say is intended to anger you. ignore them completely.
Their post history doesn’t reflect that from the two pages I skimmed.
In fact the only thing bad I saw was you harassing them and mods deleting your posts.
What should I do?
Buy a gun, shoot some Republicans?
Reddit-ass forum moderation
Murican here. I just lack a spine like the rest of my countrymen. No sense making excuses.
You probably also have access to food and basic infrastructure and services. That gives you incentive not to risk your life violently overthrowing the government.
Give it some time.
I don’t respect the position, but I appreciate that you’ve got more integrity than just about everyone else I get responses from.