Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an “unprecedented mass deployment” to Europe.

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    3 months ago

    Time to waste hundreds of billions defending israel while our infrastructure crumbles and our citizens still go without healthcare.

    Again.

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      2 months ago

      Gotta keep the Middle East under control so gas prices don’t get too high. Americans vote for low gas prices and then pretend to be upset about what needs to be done to keep them low. But y’all will keep voting for low gas prices, so it’s all hypocrisy.

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    3 months ago

    I didn’t call it, but there’s nothing quite like a war to distract the population from rampant decline at home.

    This one is weird though, Iran is allied with Russia. Israel is allied with the US. Historically, this made sense.

    But Trump and Putin playing war together would benefit both of them. It allows Putin to pull out of Ukraine because “Iran provided us much help and they need us now.” And it allows Russia to maintain the war economy. It benefits Trump because he wants to play war.

    Neither leader would have any actual skin in the game, it’s just people’s lives that would never contribute in another meaningful way to their power.

    I don’t like this. This is feeling more 1984 than 1984.

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      3 months ago

      Not to mention that this gives him a legitimate reason to invoke the alien enemies act, not that he needed them in the first place, but it will tie up the courts even further.

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      3 months ago

      The nice thing about Americans going to war is that it reduces the amount of dodge owners drag racing late at night. Silver linings.

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        yea its a distraction from all the protests, its really making him look bad, but he has the msms focusing on this instead, plus he was using the parade and the shootings as another distraction as well. right now the news practically ignoring the protests. using the. BANNER strategy, flood the MSM with so much crap its hard to focus on one thing. its also known as the firehose of falsehood which is a Russian strategy for propaganda.

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      Come on now, you don’t need to invoke some BlueAnon conspiracy to explain why the US would attack Iran; it’s been champing at the bit to do so for decades.

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      3 months ago

      They hope Iran does something, that warrants NATOs article 5 to be triggered. Either the other Nato countries follow along, weakening Europe, or they don’t, which basically desolves NATO and thus, weakening Europe.

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      3 months ago

      Both Putin and Trump are approaching dead-ends in their current campaigns. This ICE stuff can’t end well for him with so many people out last weekend, and Putin is well stuck in Ukraine, as you say. Whilst they may not be personally interested in the future of Iran and them having nukes by itself, they may need this to save their skin, actually.

    • Rozaŭtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 months ago

      Neither leader would have any actual skin in the game, it’s just people’s lives that would never contribute in another meaningful way to their power.

      Cold War 2: now with more stupid!

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      3 months ago

      Ukraine could throw a wrench in their plans by simply not accepting whatever Putin offers. He’s then left with “stay out of it and stay in Ukraine” or “join Trump and risk Ukraine flanking into Russian territory”

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      3 months ago

      Before COVID, 2020 started off with Trump drone striking a foreign diplomat and nearly starting WW3.

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    3 months ago

    A-10 movement always preceeds ground deployments. They moved those to Kuwait at the end of March. This has been coming for a while, its not an unplanned thing like it appears.

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      3 months ago

      Ueah. Yeah its pretty fucked.

      The shitty thing is: this mother fucker woild love iranian culture. It’s super good at all the shit he fakes like gold plated shit.

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        Please, don’t talk like that of Iranian culture. Iran was well on its way towards progressivism, secularism and ending absolute monarchy during the early 1950s, under the presidency of Mosaddegh. This implied developing the country and Iran profiting from its own oil, instead of giving all the profits to British Petroleum, so the US and UK did a military economic embargo of Iran, and staged a coup that reinstated the Shah. Iran could be a perfectly progressive and developed country today if it weren’t for the west destroying every country that attempts to take control of its own future.

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          No im saying iran does the good version of the ‘incredibly baroque luxury’ shit trump kind of shittily imitates.

          And yeah, imperialism sucks.

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    3 months ago

    The silver lining is that this will accelerate the decline of the US Empire which in turn will weaken Israel. Although this will be too late for the millions who have been or are still to be killed because of these psychopathic regimes.

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      3 months ago

      The silver lining is that this will accelerate the decline of the US Empire

      But not without a tremendous loss of life.

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      3 months ago

      Israel is a project, literary run by people not their in the first place, so even if US Empire collapse they will move their money to the next dominant power.

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        3 months ago

        I don’t think China gives a shit about Zionism. There’s no natural pool of evangelical Christians to brainwash.

        China is self-sufficient and has advanced military tech that is at least equivalent to what the US has. Israel has nothing to offer it besides localised spying or murdering people.

        Russia is a possibility but it has always found common cause with the Arab nations and Iran so wouldnt be as reliable. It’s also not as powerful.

        The US is the only sugar daddy for this parasitic colony.

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            3 months ago

            True. It does not have the warmongering malign ambitions that settler colonial states like the US and Israel have.

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    3 months ago

    If the shit hits the fan, I want too see every single fucking MAGA voter at a US Army recruiting office signing up for 11 Bravo, Grunt Infantry.

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    3 months ago

    This would have to be the most unpopular war in US history and yet I think everyone Trump has surrounded himself with is telling him to do it.

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      It is clear that Israel want this war. And they clearly can’t do anything without the US and the UK at least. However, they commited insane genocidal attack in Gaza which might have been part of their plans to provoke a reaction that justify a war against Iran.

      When that didn’t work and Trump made a deal with the Houthis in Yemen without their knowledge and was close to a deal with Iran they pulled the plug and basically put the US government under a situation where the have to join their war sooner or later eventhough it is not a good time for the US to do it.

      lets imagine Trump administration just gone. Any other adminstration have a few options:

      • play a defensive rule, which cannot last for long as Iran have the means to a long term missile attacks, and Israel being small and there is a few main cities that can be targeted. Along with cost which will run their budgets down.
      • stop supporting Israel, which will make their allies nation to reach to China or Russia for guarantee protection and the US will lose its defense credibility.
      • forcing a ceasefire, which is impossible and Israel keep violating all their ceasefires. As they would like to the war to happen they will force it through escalation.

      Along with the fact that Israel own the Congress, the Senate, and the US administration based on how many officials visit Israel and publicly endorsed by AIPAC, there are literally no other option.

      The question now is how to make sure it is a popular war, it seems like they were trying to do it by the 6 day mark but couldn’t. The US government has two part, Zionist and MAGA supremacist, and the MAGA supremacist don’t want to be controlled by Jewish people and it feel as this is what stopping the US from joining now.

      Most likely, they came to the conclusion that they will have to stage a false flag attack on US bases or assets to make it easier for the public to accept this war. This has been publicly stated by AIPAC speakers through out the years before 9/11, where now it feels more like a false flag as Benjamin Netanyahu keep mentioning “New York will be next”.

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      I think Trump is attempting to scare Iran into accepting his nuclear deal. The only problem with this tactic is that Iran might not believe him as they know how deeply unpopular the war would be.

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      Chicken Hawks who wouldn’t go when they were called, but will happily send everyone else’s children to die for their oil.

      As soon as HitlerPig starts his war, he’ll call for a draft. There is no way my son will fight in a MAGA War.

  • Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

    Oh good. They’re just fueling speculation and not any war machines. /s

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      Are these american military bases useful for europe anymore? Do we need them? I always thought they were a nato thing, but nowadays I don’t know. If europe is alone against the russians anyway and we cant count on nato, maybe we should just tell the american military to leave europe?

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      Yeah, it seems fairly impossible he’ll get fully into the war, and even lending a few bunker busters would be surprising when that’s risking a blowback on American forces.

      I would guess that Trump is expecting Khamenei to cave, because that’s what he’d do. Most likely, he won’t, Trump will be confused, and this will drag on and on until a regional nuclear exchange is on the table.

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          Iran or Iran’s splinter states. They have several bombs worth of uranium that’s almost ready.

          I doubt the US would get involved, and nobody else is going to for sure.

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            That’s the same talking point we’ve heard for decades but even US intelligence reports have said the opposite, even earlier this year. I’m sure they could create dirty bombs but that only requires nuclear power plant waste.

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          3 months ago

          Hasn’t Iran been talking about ramping up nuclear weapons production since like the end of last year? I don’t think they’re actually a nuclear capable nation but I could see them posturing like they are

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        3 months ago

        it works in russias favor since its redirecting some resources from the ukrainian front, its not a coindence that this is occuring at the same time russia was having larger losses.

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      3 months ago

      He openly calls service members suckers and losers. I dont know that he much cares whats done with them.