cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/51070777

“Yet, they never have the funds for healthcare coverage for all,” said Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib.

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    7 days ago

    $40 billion was the entire annual budget of USAID. No matter what you think of them, they did provided essential aid to dozens of nations, and DOGE destroyed them under the pretense of lowering the deficit. Now we’re spending that much money just to prop up one countries economy.

    (Yes, I know they USAID is a soft-power tool of American imperialism, and is rumored to have been used as cover for CIA operations, but they also did a shit-load of global AIDs prevention work, and I’d rather have spent the $40 billion on that than bailing out a libertarian freak so Rob Citrone can get rich.)

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      I mean the entire doge “savings” were instantly wiped out by the $200 billion increase in military spending. And I say savings incredibly generously because there are a ton of studies that say the agencies and people they cut will leave a hole in federal capabilities that will end up costing the American people way more than all of the money they claim to have saved (Some speculate the massive cuts to the IRS alone will end up costing about $1 trillion in lost tax collections).

      But this combined with the cost of the shutdown and the farmer bailout and so much more is just icing on the cake I guess.

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        Oh yeah, for sure. Everything DOGE did was a farce, and it almost certainly lost more money than it saved. Even en if it didn’t, they blew any savings up on their first budget legislation. I just find it particularly hypocritical to cut $40 billion in global aid because, “we don’t have the money,” then turn around and spend $40 billion on global aid to a single country

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        has he even started bailing out the farmers yet? the gop is hoping the Ds come back into the power, so the gop can mess it up next election again. it will be a problem if the gop is still in power and they dont get to blame the Ds anymore.

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      Isn’t there a shutdown? Because they can’t agree on a budget? And now there’s no money even to pay government employees? So where is this money suddenly coming from?

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      6 days ago

      Health care somewhat pays for itself. Not the really sick people, but making sure workers are healthy to actually work properly has a massive return on investment.

      The other part is taking care of general health. Things like cars, bad food, all sorts of pollution and so forth really are bad for health. If you have public health care it is often cheaper to fix the underlying issue then to treat the problems coming from it.

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      0, USA has no interest in giving people free or extremely subsidized healthcare, they lose thier political wedge issues, trump card for both sides. the DNC can say they would to wet thier appetite, and the GOP can say they are against it, because of this or that is not effective. and also REPUBLICAN recepients make up a large percentage of medicaid, snap benefits too.

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        I know a Trump supporting single father, who as someone it is absolutely meant for, uses SNAP benefits. And then turns around and says it shouldn’t exist and votes for Trump. The people are all dumb, government will hang their carrots and nothing will change weeee

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    First of course, it’s disrespectful to make insinuations to a sovereign country about whom they may vote into office.

    Secondly, Trump doesn’t have authority to give loans.

    He’s probably trying to deceive Argentinian voters with false hope of generous loans (which have to be paid back, I should note).

    However, in the US, financial decisions are made by Congress. Certainly on the scale of tens of billons. The president has discretion to move far smaller sums.

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    Aren’t Argentinan soy farmers basically stealing American soy farmer’s sales? Its almost like American farmers voting for this City Slicker Real Estate loser hate themselves or something.

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    Americans get the government they deserve (and voted for) 🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🖕🇺🇸

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    Out of curiosity, what does this do to the USD? I know it is a “small” amount relative to our country, but if they are swapping $40b in U.S. Dollars for a currency of high volatility, isnt it a guaranteed loss of believed stability in those USD up to that amount?

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      Soft power I guess? Maybe strings to dump us agricultural produce that is losing their market due to taco shenanigans.

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        Actually thanks to US money, Argentina was able to support its farmers by lower export tariffs for soy beans. They then sold a hell of a lot of those to China. Soy beans used to be the biggest US export to China…

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          Maybe in turn us gets to sell it’s GMO seeds to Argentina exclusively, displacing local seeds/agricultural self sufficiency forever? Idk

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            Milei wants to dollarize Argentina. Ones you do that, it is very hard to move to your own currency again and it would give the US massive influence over Argentina. The good news is that Argentina has a much more functional democracy then the US and their parliament is stopping Milei from doing too much bs. So probably this is going to fail.

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        Lol soft power.

        Oh you mean like all of the soft power that we built up over the past 80 years and has been completely wiped in the past 10 months?

        Soft power like that?