Article is in italian I couldn’t find any news about this in english but i believe it’s really important to share.
"Sono attesi dagli 80 ai 90 aerei all’aeroporto Marco Polo di Venezia. Jet privati da Los Angeles, New York, Londra e Dubai scaricheranno in laguna un carico scintillante di star, imprenditori, supermodelle, influencer e tycoon. Il traffico aereo privato sarà talmente intenso da richiedere un coordinamento speciale tra l’aeroporto di Venezia e gli scali di riserva a Verona e Treviso. "
Translation:
"80 to 90 planes are expected at Venice’s Marco Polo airport. Private jets from Los Angeles, New York, London and Dubai will unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon. Private air traffic will be so intense that it will require special coordination between Venice airport and the reserve stopovers in Verona and Treviso. "
But hey, we should do the right thing, save the environment and buy his ev truck!
It’s not his truck, he was a series A funder among many. The CEO of Slate is a woman with an idea.
A woman with an idea who took funding from bezos.
Her choice.
My choice is to not have anything to do with bezos, as much as I humanly can. And that includes not buying products he will profit from.
Them: “Save the planet!”
Bezos: “… and redeem it for valuable prizes!”
Sucks that a small frame single cab pickup truck has to comeback under Bezos, because it is the perfect example of a sane size and price truck, but being attached to Bezos and electric only kills it for me. I was super interested until I did research on the company. I really wish they’d bring back the tiny (by today’s standards) Toyota trucks with the full size bed. Like the mid 90s Tacoma with no lift
My first car was a Toyota Tacoma. I miss that thing. The bed was low so you didn’t have to kill your back, too.
And for all those “I use it for my job” types, they’d have more use out of a freaking transit connect.
When SUVs became “family vehicles”, instead of the dick-compensation-machines, marketing said “ahah! Big trucks!” And now big trucks are the dick compensation machines.
Don’t forget to turn off the lights (those LED lights that consumes practically nothing), and recycle (but forget that recycling companies do not actually recycle anything).
As for that EV, it seems an easy way to shame poor people who cannot afford it.
Every time, this world feels like a big joke. Once I retire, I’ll get a cabin in the woods and forget about all this.
I’ll get a cabin in the woods and forget about all this.
Enjoy the uncontrolled wildfires. There’s no escaping the damaging effects of capitalism.
That’s why I built my cabin underground
Is your Saddam Hussein structural?
Good luck living through the ever-increasing frackquakes…
Poor people are who should use EVs the most. They have been on the market for 15 years now, you can get dirt cheap older models. Bolt, eGolf, Zoe or Leaf can be had for under 5k. Cheaper to power, cheaper to maintain, cheaper to run. Plus more convenient and fun, subjectively.
Also recycling is part of “reduce, reuse, recycle”, which not only can help “save the planet”, it will definitely and immediately save your wallet. Even if someone supposed to do the recycling, doesn’t.
So, ev’s age such that the EV’s die with the batteries. Most the EVs on the used market are teslas* or absolutely at their end of life, as far as value goes-most of the cost of an ev is in those batteries.
While I don’t disagree with the sentiment… the reality is that used evs are a shitty option. What we need to be doing, that would benefit everyone, is building out mass transit, that run 24/7 and at reasonable frequencies.
(*which there are oh-so-many reasons to not drive, including that Tesla will still be profiting from you, even if you get it used. Because they track the shit out of you driving to train their FSD.)
The EV battery dying the moment you look at it funny is a myth, if I were conspiratorial I’d say by the oil industry, but I firmly believe hanlon razor comes into play here.
Yes they degrade, but they are still useful.
LFP batteries (introduced around 2020) have an estimated lifespan of a million kilometers. The NMC ones less, around 400k, with warranties covering 200k.
If you are really worried despite all the data, Renault allows you to buy the car and rent the batteries. Those cars are on the market for about 3k nowadays, plus battery rent 60€ a month. Never worry about the battery, if it degrades Renault gives you a new one. They know they will make a big profit, because again, batteries don’t degrade that easily.
Mass transit is the best solution but plenty of people still need cars, and for those people used EVs are the best economic (and ecological) option.
Yeah.
So you’re kinda full of it aren’t you?
15yo ev’s driven normally are going going to be out of warranty, and probably pretty close to EoL, which was my point to start with.
Most used EVs on the market are approaching their end of life. And with batteries, range goes down before it’s technically EoL,
The mileage you dropped is just another way to say that.
You don’t need to buy the first ever model produced, do you? You can buy a 10 year old car, which if driven 10k a year still has half the life of its battery available. Chances are it wasn’t used for road trips so it will have been driven less than 10k a year, leaving maybe 75% of its useful life. Even the first ones ever produced could have 5 or 10 years in them, depending on usage and mileage. Used EVs ARE NOT close to EoL in most cases.
Plus you can get it inspected, get a battery certificate or even a second hand warranty of you are soooo worried. Or, as I said before, you buy the car and rent the battery. Doesn’t make economic sense, but falling to propaganda never does. There are easy solutions besides ranting on the internet.
Again, hanlon razor applies here, so I don’t think you are sponsored by the oil industry, but you repeat their taking points exactly.
Again, hanlon razor applies here, so I don’t think you are sponsored by the oil industry, but you repeat their taking points exactly.
While I don’t disagree with the sentiment… the reality is that used evs are a shitty option. What we need to be doing, that would benefit everyone, is building out mass transit, that run 24/7 and at reasonable frequencies.
Yes. Totally the talking points of Big Oil.
Totally.
You’re full of shit.
A quick search, and average EU driving is about 10k km/year.
Being generous here and not using the more-than-double American numbers, you can expect a typical decade-old ev to have lost about 20% of its range, and having had about 200km max range when it was out, for about 160km.
Fine for daily commute, sure. Not fine if the owner ever wants to visit another city, for oh so many reasons. Not like us poors have a life. Nope all we ever do is commute, work, and go home. That’s all life is….
Also, the truck in question will be pretty cheap and suitable for developing countries, so that’s Jeffie accidentally doing the right thing for once. Just because he’s involved in financing some project, doesn’t mean it’s bad.
Until it is on the market for the supposed cheap price it is just a rich fuck pretending to do the right thing.
Remember when Teslas was going to have a budget model?
5k? Not where I live, and you need charging stations, and sometimes subscriptions (for the Zoe). EV start at 30k in France, it’s a luxury car that poor people cannot afford and/or charge.
As for the reduce, reuse, we all do that already. I was referring to recycling which don’t not happen compared to rich people who are shaming us and destroying the planet at the same time.
Le bullshit
Brand new cars for 1500€? I wouldn’t waste my time on such scams.
Who the fuck buys brand new cars??? No wonder you are poor. Buying a new car is a fucking luxury. 40% depreciation on the first day.
I explicitly said that EVs have been on the market for 15 years so you can get a USED one for cheap.
No wonder you are poor
How convenient when I talked before about shaming poor people.
Who the fuck buys brand new cars???
I bought a new car. I did so in late 2021. My wife and I needed a new vehicle (we had been using her parents’ car while they were away, but they had come back), and the used car market was insanely inflated. To the point where the value of a new car actually made sense, especially when coupled with the supplier discount I had access to and the features we wanted.
Someone has to buy new cars. Where do you think used cars come from?
46k KM
“new”
Less than 100k km is new. Yes.
In no world are 4+ year old cars with 20k kms on them “new”.
100% those are scam listings or bait and switch. You get there and they “just sold it” but here’s one they just happen to have that’s 3x the price, let’s get you a loan for 35%apr.
A 2013 Nissan leaf is worth less than 1500 euros, because it’s 12 years old, the battery has 80km range left on a good day and newer models have better range.
There’s one on the lot near my house for 4k. Still less than 30k. Still bullshit.
3x1.5 is 4.5k. Still a good price for an EV BTW.
BTW, you don’t need a subscription for the Zoe. You can either buy the battery or rent it, but there’s no subscription.
rent it, but there’s no subscription.
I’m confused by your semantics.
Subscription: pay for functionality or services. Like Netflix, Amazon Ring, Adobe Suite, Tesla Enhanced Autopilot, BMW heated seats, etc
Rent: use a physical object without buying it, paying per month: an apartment, an office, a car on vacation, the battery for your car if you are afraid of the FUD.
They’re both monthly fees.
How about improving income distribution so people can buy a decent new car? It is fucking pathetic that the US income distribution is on the same level as fucking Russia.
New cars have always been a bad investment, a luxury item. You can get a year old car with 5k on the clock for a 40% discount. I’m all for improving income (and wealth) distribution, but everyone buying new cars should not be the goal.
You can get a year old car with 5k on the clock for a 40% discount.
No you can’t. That’s maybe what the dealership will pay you for a trade-in, but not what you would pay to purchase such a vehicle.
Well, it’s what I paid for mine in 2019, so you are free to belive what you want. Discounts between 10% and 40% are expected:
Pre-covid and post-covid are completely different markets. Also, this situation is different in countries where you have to have a car to get anywhere like in most of Canada and the US.
Wait he has an ev truck now too?? Is this part of the douchebag checklist? Space company, ev truck, …
He’s working on producing a “bare bones” ev pick up.
So that if Trump goes after 4 years and is replaced back by a democrat he is going to turn back to democrat voters and tell them “look I sent women to space, I am super into environmental issues and I actually was a big fan of DEI so I am implementing them back again”. For him it is just hedging bets.
Now that’s what I call a target rich environment
We need you Luigi
Send more blue shells
Maybe we will get lucky and some/all will fall into the canals and drown.
🤮
Flight Radar 24 will busy.
He will cheat on her while she does the pool boy. It’s the new/old thing for the rich.
“I’m not super familiar with the lifestyles of the rich and famous. What, exactly, does a pool boy even do?”
“Uhhhh… The wife.”
“INTO the lagoon”, you say? Promise?
I’ll bring the sandbags, you bring the ropes.
I give them a year.
And why is it important? A bunch of posh billionaires gather in one place to… whatever they do on such gatherings.
If there was a bomb… That’ll be a completely different thing. But there is no bomb, just a bunch of billionaires and prostitutes.
And why is it important?
Venice’s major and italian authorities are using the argument that this event will bring a lot of money in the country to justify it. News like this are evidence of the damage these people are actually creating. 90 private jets for 250 guests is one of the most ridiculous rich people stunt i’ve ever seen, i think it’s important to share to let people aware of this shit happening.
90 private jets for 250 guests
It means they are not friends. If you have a big jet, why would you not fly with other guests and already have a good time on the way to Venice?
That whole question is contingent on the assumption that it’s OK that private jets exist
Ba ba but you have to use paper straws for the enviroment
Baba is you
Yes, it Is me your Baba
90 jets just for 250 guests mean a fucktons of co2 being emitted needlessly.
Continue…
A fucktons of co2 emission mean there’s more heat being trapped in our atmosphere.
Continue…
Then we die.
Oh, ok.
Don’t feed the troll
Just to set this in relation, the transatlantic roundtrips of those jets are the equivalent to 540000000 questions to deepseek r1, or 1710000000 questions to quen 2.5. for quen, that means to ask about 36 questions per minute.
for the next 90 years.
I hope you aren’t attempting to equate sex work / prostitution / escort with billionaires, they are quite different in expertise.
I said billionaires and prostitutes as billionaires escorted by prostitutes.
Using the world’s resources at a rate that does nothing for anyone but their fat need for liesure and pomp.
Well that sounds efficient.
If I wasn’t already boycotting amazon, I’d start now.
This is where God gets to prove he’s real, and he’s on the side of the people. If it’s true, Venice will finally sink into the sea and become a legend, like Atlantis.
If that happens, I’ll finally go to church every Sunday. Hear me God? That’s what it will take.
If the richs die from the hand of heaven I’ll be the first preacher
It will be sad for all the art and historical artifacts. But (the) god(s) can make the funniest entertainment for them and the world
I’ll go with you.
I’m still going to want to have a hard talk with God about why She allows cancer babies and such…
All the Sociopathic Oligarchs in the same place at once? Look, I’d normally be against this sort of thing, but if someone wants to drop a nuke on Venice, I could excuse it just this once.
I bet you none those flight will crash. So why do our flights get to crash?
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One can only hope
God willing there’ll be a few more to add to those statistics soon.
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Good luck, 47.
If only.