• salacious_coaster@infosec.pub
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    2 months ago

    The rich are ripping the copper out of the walls of society before it all comes crashing down. They burn out employees, throw them away and hire fresh ones. Who cares, they’re not planning of any of this lasting much longer.

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    996 work culture isn’t for everyone - or even most people. But if someone wants to start a company doing something they love and work that much, I say go for it. I started a company, albeit I only work 60/week, doing something I love and working with my family. It isn’t the only way, but is the way that works for us. 🤷

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      That’s fine since you get the upside of the business as an owner. A salaried employee may not. Equity may be offered too, but i have seen enough situations where the capital investors get a payout that leaves those with lesser shares in the cold.

      In short, fuck these people, pay me to care and I may choose to help build their business.

      One cannot eat pie in the sky.

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      2 months ago

      albeit I only work 60/week

      You do realize that this is a lot of fucking hours to work per week, right? We need to stop normalizing this shit.

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        I work from home and with my family, and I love what I do (it is my hobby). I don’t ask our staff to work this much and I don’t communicate with them outside of business hours (or after 2pm on a Friday). So, I’m not sure why this is wrong.

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          I didn’t say anyone was forcing you to do it, I just find it disgusting that we’ve normalized hours like that to the point where it’s talked about like it’s on the low side. “Only 60/week”

          I’m glad you can work for yourself, but the overwhelming majority of people who work 60hrs+ are not doing it by choice, and it consumes their waking life.

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      2 months ago

      I’m fine with that, it just sounds like these people think they can commodify that kind of dedication in exchange for much less than what you got creating your own.

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    2 months ago

    “Debate”? What fucking “debate”?

    Someone suggests something comedically fucked up and it’s now a debate?

    Shut the fuck up and sit down, you VC cunt. No one wants to hear your clown-show takes.

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      Someone suggests something comedically fucked up and it’s now a debate?

      Yep, this is the legacy of social media. And it’s been tearing apart the fabric of society.

  • just_another_person@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Robber Barons are back in style!

    Why is anyone questioning why people want to murder the rich and support social programs more and more. You have just sit and think how much people will take before they absolutely slaughter these fucking pieces of human trash.

    • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      They throw people in concentration camps without any process, much less due process, get giant tax breaks while taking away people’s healthcare, layoff thousands of workers while getting a generous bonus, dump toxic waste in the rivers, use 45% of the corn grown to make ethanol that doesn’t solve anything, and say there’s not enough room for solar panels.

      But don’t post Luigi memes because that’s inciting violence.

  • OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    This guy’s upset you won’t break your back to make him richer.

    What a piece of shit.

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    Good - nobody needs billion-dollar startups. The line doesn’t have to co constantly go up forever. We don’t need to constantly improve productivity and do more for less. Fuck that and fuck this “debate”.

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      I remember reading about a hotel in Japan that has been open for over a millennium, and IIRC it’s owned by the same family who has owned it for most of that time, and that’s their only business. We need more of that: steady-state businesses that operate but don’t pursue permanent growth.

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    He might be right, but if he wants me to work more than 5 days a week then I would expect to be compensated accordingly. Otherwise he can fuck off.

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    2 months ago

    Screw all Venture capitalist. They destroy everything they touch. Why should a worker give all they’ve got just to get screwed in the end?

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    2 months ago

    I mean this is just how you get any real talent with any real mobility to use that mobility to leave.

  • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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    Jokes on him: some of the laziest jobs I’ve had were for successful startups.

    Hell, I work for a startup right now and spent the last three hours in my hammock watching YouTube.

    I get paid for results, not time

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      Must be nice. I’ve worked for a couple myself, and all I constantly felt like I was being exploited the entire time.

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        I’ve worked for a few where I was being exploited. One paid me by letting me keep the laptop they bought me.

        Then some accountant called me and asked if I still had it.

        I said no.

        Luckily as you do this more you learn what to look out for. The one I work for now is pretty great.

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    2 months ago

    Meanwhile, some places have been trying out 4-day 8 hour days, and have found that they retain competent staff who have fewer accidents and make fewer errors, increasing company productivity while reducing wage spend.

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      Yeah, I’d rather pay for clear-minded hours of a worker, rather than near-burnout hours. But the guy doesn’t care, he’s trying to compete by saving in wages…at the frontline of tech. It makes no sense either way.

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        I’ve told bosses before they can have either my early hours or my best hours, but not both. There’s so much waste in our work lives trying to fit to some picture of productivity that isn’t actually real. We just play the parts we’re required to while getting nothing done.

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    Isn’t the point of working hard so that you can take it easy eventually? These psychos never take it easy, the suffering is the point for them.

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      It’s the difference between people who “work to live,” vs. those who “live to work.”

      The latter are borderline sociopaths, at best

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      It can be that or it can be the satisfaction of doing useful work well. Venture capitalists don’t do useful work so they don’t know that satisfaction. And they don’t know what else to do but chase money because they lack the capacity to appreciate life as it is and are probably scared to just stop, in case they have to face the void in their heart. Hence their unstoppable, narrow-minded craving for more money.