Ukraine has submitted a list of POWs to Russia for a 1,000-for-1,000 prisoner swap. Many Ukrainian soldiers have now spent over three years in Russian captivity, where they are often being tortured, abused and offered to "join Russian forces to then occupy Europe."
    • highduc@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      17 days ago

      After so much russophobic propaganda I get where this is coming from, but are you willing to go die out of sheer hatred of russia?
      I’m just scared that people like you will drag us in an outright war, and I don’t wanna go die in our overlords’ bid for more resources.

      • vga@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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        17 days ago

        Russians themselves were willing (or were ordered instead of asked) to go die in WW2 against Nazi Germany. Was this a “sheer hatred of germans” that was due to “germanphobic propaganda”? Perhaps a bit, but there cleary was a worthy cause behind it all.

        If it meant an end to the fascist regime of Russia, it’d be worth it. We all die anyway at some point, why not die for a good cause then.

      • elucubra@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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        17 days ago

        Well, here is the thing, I was in the military in Europe decades ago, conscript. Considering what we are seeing as far as effectiveness, training, etc of russian forces, I’d give my generation a 10 to 1advantage, at least, in kills. Multiply by all of Europe combined. Also, current troops in most of Europe are professional, so a 20:1 ratio is not far fetched. I like those odds.

        EDIT: Also, let’s not forget that western hardware is whooping russian ass

      • ssillyssadass@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        17 days ago

        First of all, Russia has already fired the first shot. They’ve been attacking not just Europe but the rest of the world for years in an information war. The situation in the US can undoubtedly be tracked back to them. To attack Russia wouldn’t be a war of aggression, it would be a retaliatory strike.

        Secondly, there is no way that Russia has all the military might they’ve claimed to have. On a military level they are a paper tiger. Just look at the OP, they’re trying to enlist Ukrainian soldiers to fight for them. I remember reading a little time ago about how they were even considering training and fielding children to the front. It wouldn’t be an outright war, it would be a brief struggle. A local pro-Russia militia would probably pose a greater threat than the Russian army.

      • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
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        16 days ago

        Yeah it definitely won’t be the Russian invaders who drag us all into a war.

        Fuck all the way off with this “stop struggling or this rape will turn into a murder” shit.

  • Grizzlyboy@lemm.eeEnglish
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    17 days ago

    Invade Russia, gather everyone in support of Putin and the Russian war in Ukraine. Nuke them all.

    • Gsus4@mander.xyzOPEnglish
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      17 days ago

      I just want russia to fuck back to its backward shithole, live in their own filth and violence and never come back. We won’t touch russia’s borders, we don’t want reparations, just fuck back off to russia and nobody will bother you ever again. That’s it. No nukes, no negotiations, no blackmail: never show up again and we won’t either. If you don’t want russians to see Ukrainians have a go at democracy, turn off your internet and turn russia into North Korea, Kim can give you some pointers on how to do that.

      • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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        17 days ago

        That’s a mighty good wish that will never come true because of its internal logic.

        With their culture, if left alone, something will fester and they WILL come back.

        I’d rather have Russia become an actual, real democracy that controls their police apparatus and army well. It’s the only way forward

        • Gsus4@mander.xyzOPEnglish
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          17 days ago

          Would be nice, but there is no path there right now. Every single bridge built to them was twisted and weaponized (some of it thanks to western anarchocapitalists)

          PS: it took all major armies in the world to fix France and get rid of Bonapartism, it took all major armies in the world to fix Germany and get rid of nazism…but there are no resources to fix russia and putinism, especially if MAGAts and China want to use it to keep Europe in check.

  • cabron_offsets@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    18 days ago

    Russia has always been a scourge on humanity and always will be, until the West can find the resolve to destroy it.