Yeah being a shit poster is not the kind of leadership i want replacing Trump, especially when his other actions have been not to the standards of what i think of as a good person.
Fuck Newsom, we can and need to do better, rather than richer.
The fact that half the country has shit for brains leans me towards disagreeing with you. The 60’s saw a charismatic, camera friendly JFK beat old shitty Nixon and everything turned into a popularity contest after that.
The Republicans figured it out with Regan and have been refining it ever since. If Newsome can get enough shit brained non voters to put his name in a box for lulz then fuck it, I’d rather have that asshole than whoever the Republicans are going to pick.
I’ll be happier to see a progressive, educated professional with a successful career full of giving-a-shit , independent and with wild grassroots support, but that doesn’t seem likely.
It’s very clear he’s just campaigning.
Okay, I’m not doing purity politics, he can change his was and I can forgive him. There’s still some years left.
I haven’t seen a single person say that there’s nothing he can ever do to make up for it. People are calling for him to stop the transphobia and persecution of the homeless.
The “vote blue no matter who” mantra is how we ended up with Killary and Kamalama-ding-dong in the fucking first place. How’d that work out?
What sin did we commit to deserve your presence?
BUT HIS INTERNS WROTE IN ALL CAPS. HE’S A GENIUS, SOME SAY NO ONE HAS NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE. EPIC. THANK FOR YOUR ATTESTATION OF THIS MASSAGE.
I refuse to vote for him after he appeared on Charlie Kirk’s podcast, said he completely aligns with him on trans issues, in particular banning HRT for minors and putting trans women in men’s prisons.
At the close of the podcast, Charlie Kirk shifted the discussion to transgender healthcare, stating, “I encourage you to learn about the butchery that is happening under chemical castration in this state. The American people are overwhelmingly against it.” Newsom responded, “Yeah. I think we have to be more sensitized to that.”
Kirk continued, “Youth should be off limits, you might be right on deportations, I know I’m right on this,” to which Newsom simply acknowledged, “Yeah.” Kirk then cited the Cass Report—a widely criticized and legally discredited review used to justify bans on transgender healthcare in the UK—as evidence that gender-affirming care for youth should be prohibited. Newsom offered no pushback, replying, “I’m not an expert on this, but I appreciate your broader [point].”
I honestly thought he was looking to run as a Republican in 2028. Fuck him. I’m done. I held my nose and voted for Clinton, Biden, and Harris, but this is my breaking point. I’ve had it.
Great. Another Trump supporter.
I’m trans. fuck off with calling me a Trump supporter. you’ve never had to vote for someone who calls you slurs and promises to take away your rights.
Being trans has nothing to do with anything. How do you know what I’ve experienced or not? Here’s the bottom line you either do something active to get trump out or you do something passive to keep him in. You might not like your choices, most people don’t but that’s what they are so. Also fuck off.
Being trans has nothing to do with anything. How do you know what I’ve experienced or not?
Are you trans?
Are you a member of any minority group that Gavin Newsom has pledged to crack down on? (I’m referencing the Charlie Kirk interview (you know, the Turning Point USA guy) I linked on a sibling post, where he said he was in “100% agreement” with him.)
If not, you fuck off. It’s like asking a Jew to support Röhm so Hitler doesn’t get reelected führer.
seems like they are pushing him pretty hard, the DNC that is, seeing as how they freaked out over THE MINNESOTA mayor and zohran in nyc. having him doing some performative parlor tricks for the media.
The DNC seems to be fearful of losing their control of the party to younger, more progressive voices. So they keep advocating for the viability of closer-to-cenrer candidates who won’t rock the party boat, even though they lose so many votes to folks uninspired to get out and vote for “the lesser evil”. I will never “both sides” this mess, but the DNC needs to get its shit together and actually represent the median of “left” in the U.S. or it will continue to fail.
A democrat who does awful things and “aspire[s] to be Ronald Reagan”. That’s not a democratic or liberal candidate. It’s a conservative take-over of the democratic party.
It’s a conservative take-over of the democratic party.
I mean… that already happened like 30 years ago. After Walter Mondale got so thoroughly trounced by Reagan in 84, the DNC started looking for their own Reagan. It took a few years to cultivate the right candidate, but Bill Clinton is ultimately who they chose.
People forget just how conservative he was because his famous sex scandal has crowded out any historical memory of his policy positions, but really the only difference between Clinton and Reagan is that Clinton balanced that budget. He was extremely conservative compared to contemporary democrats, but he was “folksy” and had the right kind of charisma to attract middle America. For Christ sake, the guy won Kentucky in both 92 and 96.
Yeah, Hillary Clinton used Reagan’s shining city on a hill metaphor in her democratic national convention speech.
There are many better options than Newsom, and if the dem party can’t find true representatives, the party needs to be reborn.
A reborn dem party without a majority is just endorsing the nazis remain in power.
You know, I bought this in 2016, 2020 and 2024. I don’t anymore. Biden is a clear example of why this argument fails: He got elected because everyone held their nose and voted for him, to be rid of Trump. His Presidency was spectacularly lackluster, basically four years of a lame duck as the Democratic Party withered into gerontocracy. It was like watching Brezhnev try to hold the Soviet Union together.
Four years later, we got Trump II, and this time it’s so much worse. MAGA completed its takeover of the Republican Party, he has a cabinet of True Believers and total loyalists, corporate America groveling, a huge budget for ICE, and a comprehensive plan in Project 2025 to dismantle the state and reshape it into fascism.
Did Biden save us? No! Biden fucked us, because the DNC refused to reform, alienated progressives and turned Congress into a retirement home. Resentment built, the wheels fell off, and it turbocharged the MAGA movement.
The DNC is dead. Neoliberalism is dead. The centrist strategy is dead. We need an actual vision, not just Nancy Pelosi playing the stock market and selling bombs to Israel while we’re crushed under mountains of debt.
Got it, you’re an accelerationist who wishes Trump wins a third term.
Nope, you are actually the accelerationist here for refusing to lucidly deal with the mechanism of acceleration truthfully and instead are faffing around with half measures that ensure the problem will not be stopped but make you feel less scared.
Excuse me for thinking socialized healthcare, taxing the rich, and free education is the solution, clearly you disagree and think it’s all just fascism with extra steps.
Newsom hasn’t indicated he’ll do any of that though. He’s more of the same centrism that got us here. He’s not a progressive, which by this comment I assume you are.
Its the entire DNC platform. Any Democrat would give us that.
the current one endorses them already, no need to change it to a “nazi-lite”
Only “candidate” I’ve been excited about so far is Jon Stewart.
I wrote to him to encourage him to run against Trump. He was the best man for that job. I think in the future we should be able to do better.
We shouldn’t need Jon’s wit and Carlin-ism to cut through their facade next election. We should just be able to do it with truth.
I feel like there are way more comments about how you can’t make me support Newsom but people that actually… say you have to support Newsome. Like do they even really exist here?
The really weird thing I’ve noticed lately is just how vocal the “this isn’t the time to divide the left” crowd are, when the elections are so far off. This is exactly the right time to be having a serious reckoning on what the Democratic Party should be, and that isn’t going to happen unless there is a credible threat of losing left-wing voters.
These are the same type of people who actively support neoliberalism and want to sabatoge the left. Ask them if they support Zohran Mamdani.
or that minnesota? mayor they threw in teh bus, and david hoggs they also did too.
Instead of trying to tear down the other Dems, why aren’t you trying to build up your candidates?
Bernie is better about this than you are. Follow his lead.
because they would lose thier tax cuts benefits from the gop, which they almost never reverse, and money and power that comes with being part of the inner circle of the DNC, which is basically gop lite.
So terrible to “tear down” (criticize) a politician siding with the far right on trans people. His feelings are much more important than trans kids being safe and healthy, obviously.
If Bernie has told anyone to shut up about Newsom’s transphobia he can also fuck off.
By the way, all this “tearing down” has a super easy fix. All he has to do is stop being a fucking transphobe. If it’s so important that everyone supports him, you should call his office and tell him to walk that shit back. Because it’s going to lose him voters if he tries a presidential run.
Legislation signed by Newsom:
2024 Ban on Parental Notification:
Newsom signed a bill prohibiting school districts from notifying parents if their child changes their gender identity, protecting students from forced outings and creating a safe space for gender exploration.
California Sanctuary State Law:
In 2022, Newsom signed a law making California a refuge for transgender youth and families from other states with discriminatory laws, ensuring access to gender-affirming care.
Inclusion in Death Tracking:
Newsom signed a bill into law that explicitly included sexual orientation and gender identity in the tracking data for violent deaths of LGBTQ individuals.
Areas of conflict and criticism:
Veto of Custody Bill:
In 2023, Newsom vetoed a bill that would have required judges to consider a parent’s affirmation of their child’s gender identity in custody disputes.
Concerns about Trans Athletes:
Newsom has voiced opposition to transgender athletes competing in women’s sports, a stance that has drawn criticism from the LGBTQ+ community for aligning with conservative viewpoints on the issue.
Public Resistance to School Notification:
Newsom’s initial resistance to the ban on parental notification, even as he signed other bills expanding rights, caused tension within the LGBTQ+ community.
Recent shifts in Newsom’s position:
Podcast with Charlie Kirk:
In March 2025, Newsom appeared on a podcast with right-wing provocateur Charlie Kirk, where he agreed with Kirk’s views on the “unfair advantage” of trans athletes in sports, causing shock and condemnation from allies and sparking debate about his commitment to trans rights.
Internal Democratic Feud:
His stance on trans issues, including athletes, is reportedly causing tension within the Democratic Party and has been seen by some as a strategic move to avoid being associated with the party’s support for trans rights, especially after recent election losses.
Why are you explaining this to me like I’m not a trans person who has lived in California over a decade?
California LGBTQ leaders and organizations with decades of experience in advocating for LGBTQ people immediately condemned his statements. It doesn’t matter what legislation he’s signed in the past, throw the trans community under the bus and that goes out the window.
If any criticism of him is bad, the only way to make it stop is to get him to stop being a transphobe for political gain. Period. If everyone has shut up about it then it’s because I’m dead.
Also, don’t you think it’s a little rude to respond to a comment with a ChatGPT infodump without even disclosing it?
One side wants to literally kill you.
The other side won’t let you play in some sports.
And your solution is to let others decide between the two, because you don’t like either.
Are you intentionally trying to miss the point that this is entirely fixable if Newsom walks back the transphobia? Because all I’m hearing is that there’s a certain amount of transphobia that trans people are obligated to silently accept, and that’s horse shit.
The fact you think it’s ‘just sports’ shows you have zero clue what that represents. Asking trans people to just accept the erosion of their participation in public life for the good of a society that hates us is fucked. Which of your rights have you put on the chopping block for everyone else?
One side wants to kill us, and now the other side is shifting to agree with them on trans people existing being a problem. I don’t know why you think it’ll end with sports. If they’re successful at banning trans people from sports, next comes bathroom, employment protections, housing protections, and so on. We can’t just brush these things off, or they’ll continue to sprint towards right wing ideology to pursue the mythical “centrist” voters.
Sports are the only one of those that we’ve segregated by gender.
It’s also the only one that’s remotely bipartisan.
Well yeah? You didn’t think they were being earnest, the point has always been to get you to shut up and simply vote for whoever they want you too.
Bingo. The rhetoric exists specifically to deter any consideration about defecting from the party line because they aren’t actually of the left, they are the right wing defense of the capitalist status quo; the same capitalist status quo that is currently devolving into fascism in its late stages.
“I can prove with statistics that you’re a Nazi enabler (just as long as you don’t look at the statistics, and also you make all the same assumptions as me about how other people would have voted in my hypothetical scenario)”
If we’re not allowed to criticize candidates in the general then I’m gonna criticize them extra hard in the primaries.
I’m gonna have to vote for whoever everyone else picks anyway because my choice has literally never won.
What primary? I believe the little switcheroo they pulled to try and shove Kamalama-ding-dong down democrats throats, was on purpose. That makes 3 primaries in a row that the DNC fucked over democrats, which is why I registered Independent the last time I got a new license.
We need to rember the recall election agianst him was pushed by republicans but wasn’t baseless…the question wasn’t was did he do it, it was who could replace him that isnt worse, when we saw mr drag a bear and generic white democrats, gavin won not on merit, but by default. By no means is a good candidate but he gives the people a good liberal bribe.
We cannont let a right wing governor take the reigns, and we dont want to lose what gavin has given us, thats where we stand.
I don’t mind the trolling but I definitely don’t want democrat Trump. Doesn’t matter anyway since there won’t be an election in 2028.
I will never forget that Gavin Newsom vetoed ranked choice voting in CA. He’s already demonstrated that he is anti-democratic. I would vote against Trump every time no matter who the DNC put up, including Newsom, but I would be holding my nose yet again to vote for the less shitty of two shitty choices. The DNC can’t keep running on “we’re not Trump.” They needed to give us a candidate we actually wanted.
I would vote against Trump every time no matter who the DNC put up
They needed to give us a candidate we actually wanted.
Apparently they don’t
Twice now they’ve lost against Trump by not giving people what they wanted.
Astute viewers at home may have noticed that the Democrats just lost the last election with that strategy. Just because I’ll hold my nose and do the necessary thing doesn’t mean everyone else will. In fact, they didn’t.
Just because I’ll hold my nose and do the necessary thing doesn’t mean everyone else will.
The ‘necessary thing’ is voting for a fascist multi millionaire? He may be slightly better than the current guy, since the bar to pass is so low, but he’s very far from an actually valid candidate.
I understand different people have different situations in which the ‘necessary thing’ may vary. However, he’ll only solve a handful of current issues plaguing the USA, if even that. From whefe I’m standing (which arguably is quite far away as I’m a European) you’d achieve much more by protesting. Especially given that there may not be another election in your country. Though I’m also aware protests in the USA may come with serious risk of injury or loss of life.
I guess you could call it “the bare minimum”: voting against the worst option.
I don’t know where in Europe you are, but fascist populism is on the rise over there too. You might want to get to protesting yourself.
