If Biden/Kmala had more loyalty to the American people than Israel’s genocide we could have avoided all this…
But that’s the big lie with neoliberalism. They don’t want a continuous string of “moderate” presidents. They need villains like trump to destroy things so they can get applause for fixing 10% of the damage.
I just can’t think of another reason they refuse to stop being so antagonistic towards their own voters.
The only way they can be this out of touch, is if they’re actively trying to lose.
Yep, the DNC forced candidates people didn’t want to vote for, and now no one wants to blame the DNC for the results of their own choices against the voters will.
I’m assuming you’re being sarcastic tho, because is sure as hell haven’t been loving the results.
You blame Kamala for the majority of American voters choosing Trump?
Anyone who didn’t vote or voted for Trump is to blame. It’s no one else.
Kamala could have promised to personally shoot a Palestinian baby and you still should have voted for her because Trump has already killed 17. And it’s not a surprise. It was a campaign promise to genocide Palestine.
People are mad at you but I totally blame professional politicians for not being able to convince enough people to keep that asshole from getting elected.
AGAIN.
They’re terrible at their jobs and deserve blame.
ETA: if you disagree with me don’t bother writing a 10,000 character reply. I won’t read it because I’ve heard all the excuses before. Like for my entire life. Just downvote me.
That’s not what it was. They hated Bill Clinton just as much as they hated Barack Obama, the only difference was Faux was created in late 1996 and didn’t go fully off the deep end and got popular till 03 with the Iraq war…
Like, the only reason there was ever the big push saying it was Obama, was bullshit neoliberals doing what they always do.
It’s the first rule of American neoli liberalism:
No matter what the result, say we need to move right.
Just like they claimed their crime bill did what the ban on leaded gas did for crime rates, just like they said de-regulation did what the dotcom boom did to the economy…
The rise of conservative media started when Clinton allowed it to:
hated Bill Clinton just as much as they hated Barack Obama
Did you watch any Fox News during either Presidency? They hated Clinton, but they went full bigfuck on Obama. Same for “man in the street” opinions. The people grumbling about Clinton went apeshit when Obama got in. I’d never seen such on outpouring of hate in American politics.
But they wouldn’t have had the megaphone to unite them under trump if not for the telecommunications act of 1996, right?
You understand that is the root cause of our current situation right?
Because you’re still not blaming the right people.
the racists who couldn’t accept a black man.
Or am I just “whooshing” here and that was a reference to the neoliberal wing who’s idea it was and how they’d rather have trump than anyone like Obama again?
Or am I just “whooshing” here and that was a reference to the neoliberal wing who’s idea it was and how they’d rather have trump than anyone like Obama again?
They’d rather have any white male rather than any woman or anyone else of color. But after all the investment and effort in Trump, no point trying to put someone else in the seat so they stuck with him.
They’d rather have any white male rather than any woman or anyone else of colo
It has absolutely nothing with Obama.
1996 (early): Clinton gets rid of the regulation that was requiring the media to not just blatantly lie. (A cynic would say so billionaire owned media could shit on progressives and say neoliberalism is working)
1996 (October): Faux goes on air.
2001: Bill leaves office, GW enters.
Then 9/11 which is what Faux used to radicalize their voters, and they had 7 years to do so.
We could have elected the ghost of Ronald Reagan in 08 and they’d have gotten the same results as Obama from Faux News.
Don’t blame Obama for being Black
Blame the administration that literally de-regulated the media, if it wasnt for Bill Clinton, how they treated Obama legally couldn’t have happened*
I feel like I’m just repeating the same thing, but it is important we understand how we got here.
So fuck it, I’ll keep repeating this for whoever asks, as many times as necessary
If Biden/Kmala had more loyalty to the American people than Israel’s genocide we could have avoided all this…
But that’s the big lie with neoliberalism. They don’t want a continuous string of “moderate” presidents. They need villains like trump to destroy things so they can get applause for fixing 10% of the damage.
I just can’t think of another reason they refuse to stop being so antagonistic towards their own voters.
The only way they can be this out of touch, is if they’re actively trying to lose.
I really love the playbook of Person A does something reprehensible, so of course Person B is to blame. Just looove it.
Yep, the DNC forced candidates people didn’t want to vote for, and now no one wants to blame the DNC for the results of their own choices against the voters will.
I’m assuming you’re being sarcastic tho, because is sure as hell haven’t been loving the results.
You blame Kamala for the majority of American voters choosing Trump?
Anyone who didn’t vote or voted for Trump is to blame. It’s no one else.
Kamala could have promised to personally shoot a Palestinian baby and you still should have voted for her because Trump has already killed 17. And it’s not a surprise. It was a campaign promise to genocide Palestine.
It’s ironic that you’d accuse Kamla of being responsible for Trump in a thread ridiculing Trump for accusing Zelenski of being responsible for Putin.
Who lost an election against literally the worst president in modern history who didn’t even have an incumbent advantage?
So yeah I blame the DNC leaders at the time, Biden, and Kamala for trump being able to win an election.
All they had to do was look at polls of what Dem voters want, and say “yeah, I’ll try to do that”.
That doesn’t take $1,500,000,000. But that’s how much the Dem campaign was to lose to trump.
But sure Karen, blame people on social media. How could 1.5 billion dollars compete with that?
People are mad at you but I totally blame professional politicians for not being able to convince enough people to keep that asshole from getting elected.
AGAIN.
They’re terrible at their jobs and deserve blame.
ETA: if you disagree with me don’t bother writing a 10,000 character reply. I won’t read it because I’ve heard all the excuses before. Like for my entire life. Just downvote me.
Absolutely.
There’s a lot of blame. Plenty to go around.
Guilt for everyone. Not that most of the cretins in suits can feel guilt.
I mean, they’re fantastic at setting up opportunities for record fundraising. Actually achieving our political goals, not so much.
Okay, they’re great at their jobs but it’s not winning elections.
MAGA never got over a black man as POTUS. They were never going to allow a woman, a black/Asian woman, to becom POTUS, by any means necessary.
PS Yes I’m saying the vote was stolen.
That’s not what it was. They hated Bill Clinton just as much as they hated Barack Obama, the only difference was Faux was created in late 1996 and didn’t go fully off the deep end and got popular till 03 with the Iraq war…
Like, the only reason there was ever the big push saying it was Obama, was bullshit neoliberals doing what they always do.
It’s the first rule of American neoli liberalism:
Just like they claimed their crime bill did what the ban on leaded gas did for crime rates, just like they said de-regulation did what the dotcom boom did to the economy…
The rise of conservative media started when Clinton allowed it to:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996
Seriously, it took 9 months, as fast as a human baby for Faux News to be created.
And then when people asked why it exploded in 2003…
People blame the Black man no one had heard of yet because it continued along the same trajectory while he was president.
Fuck.
I feel old having lived thru this. And I can get why 18 year olds dont know it…
But how can anyone over like 35 not understand why we’re at the point we are? We literally lived thru this shit during our formulative years.
We often agree, but I gotta hard disagree here.
Did you watch any Fox News during either Presidency? They hated Clinton, but they went full bigfuck on Obama. Same for “man in the street” opinions. The people grumbling about Clinton went apeshit when Obama got in. I’d never seen such on outpouring of hate in American politics.
Because it couldn’t be invented till the last year of Bill’s …
Because there was laws about how news can be run…
Until Bill got rid of them …
Just …
Fuck man. How are you not understanding this?
Because Faux News couldn’t be invented till Clinton’s
Like we’re just going circles, and there’s not .much to pick up each lap…
But your not picking anything up
I don’t blame a black man. I blame the racists who couldn’t accept a black man.
But they wouldn’t have had the megaphone to unite them under trump if not for the telecommunications act of 1996, right?
You understand that is the root cause of our current situation right?
Because you’re still not blaming the right people.
Or am I just “whooshing” here and that was a reference to the neoliberal wing who’s idea it was and how they’d rather have trump than anyone like Obama again?
They’d rather have any white male rather than any woman or anyone else of color. But after all the investment and effort in Trump, no point trying to put someone else in the seat so they stuck with him.
It has absolutely nothing with Obama.
1996 (early): Clinton gets rid of the regulation that was requiring the media to not just blatantly lie. (A cynic would say so billionaire owned media could shit on progressives and say neoliberalism is working)
1996 (October): Faux goes on air.
2001: Bill leaves office, GW enters.
Then 9/11 which is what Faux used to radicalize their voters, and they had 7 years to do so.
We could have elected the ghost of Ronald Reagan in 08 and they’d have gotten the same results as Obama from Faux News.
Don’t blame Obama for being Black
Blame the administration that literally de-regulated the media, if it wasnt for Bill Clinton, how they treated Obama legally couldn’t have happened*
I feel like I’m just repeating the same thing, but it is important we understand how we got here.
So fuck it, I’ll keep repeating this for whoever asks, as many times as necessary
Go ahead. I’ll keep blaming racist fuckfaces
And ignoring why they got the megaphone to say it on cable news?
Faux News legally couldn’t exist until neoliberals removed fair broadcast regulations…
Because that was the only way to convince people neoliberalism was working.
We had laws against propaganda until neoliberals got rid of them
Now you want to blame anyone except the people who made that propaganda legal.
This is like if I gave a baby a gun, the baby shot you, and then you listened to me when I told you the baby was the problem.
Instead of questioning why we gave a baby a gun, it even addressing the problem that I’m still giving baby’s guns…
You realize we could have fixed this when Biden had the House and Senate…
Or when Obama had the House and Senate…
Are you waiting for Republicans to reinstate the regulations against propaganda?
Neoli erals won’t fix this, republicans won’t fix this, can you guess who that leaves?
Going against Israel has never been good for anyone’s political career.