Too many people pearl clutching today over worries of retributive violence, as if the fascists aren’t already going to be committing that violence on us in the near future regardless. It’s not too early to say that this scumbag deserved much worse and I’m glad he got rocked so publicly. Mods I’ll understand if you delete this and I’m truly sorry for the trouble if you do, I just need a personal break today from the media cacophony of liberals collectively reconciling with the realization that we live in an abnormally and horrifically violent society.
yeah you shouldn’t advocate for gun violence when you have a massive critbox yourself.
The onion had a good headline, ‘Charlie Kirk loses gun control debate by a longshot’
Where? I want to share it.
All I can find is "Trump: ‘Political Violence Has No Place In My Inner Circle’"
Let it out mate. We were all thinking this. No one is sad the neonazi died. Rest in piss Charlie.
Omg lol
How many people have been snatched off the street and disappeared to secret prisons recently? Those people I am concerned about, this bigoted asshole eating lead while spewing bullshit…not at all. There is violence going on already and while I don’t wish for more deaths, there is no rehabilitation for a Nazi
I’m totally stealing this. Sorry, not sorry
Please do!
I totally promise not to use this for evil
I don’t know a lot about him, I’m not US American.
I condemn violence in general but a person like him who helps polarize society, pours oil in the fire etc. may just reap what he sowed.
That’s what you get, with culture war nonsense and playing sides of the political spectrum against each other. Strange to assume this would just stay rhetoric.
He sayd things like few gun related deaths each year is acceptable sacrifice if they can keep their god given right to bear arms. Also he said he does not understand empathy and it’s just a made up new age term.
So he most definetly got what he sowed, what he deserved.
He was saying that trans people shouldn’t have guns because they commit lots of gun violence when he was shot (a lie as usual).
Main difference between him and someone else fueling the fire is the irony.
He specifically supported people bringing guns to schools wiith quotes that essentially boil down to “Gun violence happens but we just have to live with it to protect our god given rights.”
He was the reason he could get shot.
It’s ironic to mention retributive violence while advocating against people’s rights to be armed to defend themselves.
Nobody is advocating for murder or murderers. While I dislike reddit, /r/DGU is typically very illustrative as to why it’s so important.
I hope - sincerely - to never need to defend myself or my family.
That doesn’t mean you get to disarm me so that some murderers can ignore the law and kill people anyway.
I’m a pro-2A gun owner, I suspect you may not be reading the meme the way I intended / expected.
Murder is strictly the illegal killing of someone.
If it is legal to target a minority group it may be illegal for that minority group to resist.
You can end up with a situation where Alice killing Bob is legal and not murder, but Bob killing Alice in self defence is murder.
In such cases the morality of Bob engaging in self defense is not so easily encompassed in “murder is wrong.”
So from a historical context:
A Nazi killing a Jew during WWII was not murder but a Jew killing a Nazi was.
A modern perspective:
A Israeli killing Palestinians is not murder, but a Palestinians killing Isrealis is.
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It was while he was being asked about gun violence that he was shot, the student says.
Unbelievable.
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Some of you will die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to hhh-uh-kkuggg…
You’d need a case of dynamite and some matches to cut through that irony.
Specifically, he was in the middle of spinning a question about mass shootings into a dog whistle about “gang violence”.
mass shootings committed by trans people, specifically
The order of events as I’ve been seeing online:
Videos circulating on social media showed an attender at the student event on Wednesday asking Charlie Kirk: “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?”
In response, Kirk said: “Too many,” as the crowd clapped.
In a follow-up question, the attender asked: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”
Kirk replied: “Counting or not counting gang violence?”
His last act on earth was cracking a joke about how only queers and poors are involved in gang violence, at which point he was shot.
Also while sitting in a tent plastered in “prove me wrong”
Thanks for extra context. These people really don’t seem to care about others suffering. Also I don’t normally hear gang violence and mass shooters together. Gang violence is generally targeted and not focused on the most amount of bodies.
Regardless I’m getting tired of this all, and it’s likely only beginning.
It’s a regularly used debate tactic of the right. He was going to imply that whatever number the student came up with for mass shootings was inflated because the criteria was too vague and erroneously counts gang violence. He would then have used this to simultaneously downplay the seriousness of mass shootings and suggest that trans people represent a larger proportion of mass shooters than they actually do. It was his way of discrediting the argument that the student was making; that trans people are actually underrepresented in the population of mass shooters. The reason for the student making this argument - if you don’t know - is that Charlie Kirk has blamed trans people for mass shootings in the past, jumping on the conservative bandwagon that always transvestigates mass shooters because they believe they are a trans conspiracy.
Thank you because I know a bit, but I don’t know enough about him and his shtick to understand the greater context. I’m also ot familiar enough with those dog whistles to catch them all out in the wild
I think it was the asker who also said “great.” sarcastically when gang violence was mentioned (just before the shot), adding to the timing.
You know how in certain types of antihero drama where the protagonist is an assassin, they’re always careful to make the target as cartoonishly obnoxious as possible at a kind of cue to let the audience know that they’re not supposed to feel bad for them?
They could use this verbatim as the script.
Those chicks seemed like smug ass Karen’s. It’s scary how well composed and dedicated to the narrative they were after witnessing someone they liked being shot
Liberals claim the shot to my neck was impressive, yet my face was a much smaller target.
Curious.
I feel like THIS is retributive violence. Democratic politicians were earlier shot dead in their homes, so I’d say that republicans shouldn’t be able to feel safe either.
Trump ordered flags to half staff. For a fucking shitposter. 2 congresspeople in MN get gunned down and nothing.
Kirk promoted gun violence to justify the 2nd amendment. It would be poetic justice if the killer was someone whose loved one died from gun violence and chose to give him a taste of his own opinion.
The Republicans are only going to talk about violence against them. They have a victim mentality and Charlie boy is now a martyr.
He is now their Horst Wessel.
His voice just got louder.
Not really. His death put a cap on his ability to say new things or respond to current happenings and cultural events. He was neither timeless nor profound and 5 years from now this is the only thing most people will remember vs him yapping in their feeds about current events this diminished him.
That’s exactly what happened to Rush Limbaugh. He’s no longer relevant to the current conversation and while not forgotten, he can’t spread his continued message anymore.
His voice couldn’t become louder than it already was. A mouth that big can’t get any bigger.
Also, he’s dead.
No louder is that other conservative talking head
Crowder isn’t really very popular. Charlie Kirk is going to be the white MLK
I’m white and I can assure you that POS may he rot is not.
How is it at all like MLK?
Hang on, are you accusing the FBI of killing Charlie Kirk, too?
Not intentionally, the shooter was just supposed to clip his ear.
Unfortunately, the guy who missed JFK’s ear was on duty that day.
Am I not not accusing them?
I hope they all end up being martyrs.
I don’t think his name will linger in memory very long. The pro gun crowd doesn’t care when people die, they just don’t. And they’ll happily use his name for a little while, but it’s not like they actually valued his life any more than they value the lives of the children who die from routine school shootings every year. They’ll forget about him soon enough.
It’s sad to say that, too. We’d like to imagine that these gun lunatics have some sense of empathy with their political allies, or other humans in general, but many of them just don’t. And because they don’t feel that at all, they can’t even fake it, not for long.
Imagine leading a life where millions are giddy over your death.
The craziest thing about that is that being a halfway decent human is the default position. You have to actively try to be a peice of shit at the scale he was
And he was only 31, imagine how many more would be giddy if he lived as long as Trump.
Some bring joy wherever they go… others, whenever they go
Like when Henry Kissinger died and every second city in South America had celebratory parties?
Russian Soldiers wrote this on the wall inside the German Reichstag in 1945. Best use of it (so far).
I literally cannot recognize Charlie Kirk without his tiny face shrunken slightly further down.
That’s because it’s Crowder in the meme
If anything, someone enlarged his tiny face in this image.
I have to admit, the Republicans were right about the second amendment. We need to be (legally) buying guns and (legally) protesting with them.
Judge just now ruled that banning open carry in Florida is unconstitutional. Our shithead governor is pushing for a new law. Like about every other conservative, they don’t think the rest of us are armed.
