The fucking nerve to even imply that an apology was expected.
Sinclair was demanding one, so the fact that Kimmel did not apologize is significant.
Why does anyone give a shit about Sinclair and Nextstar?
If they don’t want to air him, then don’t air him.
If people in those communities give a shit, then they can make some phone calls and send some emails.
If they don’t care, then they can watch whatever their abc affiliate wants to air.
Why the fuck do they think they can pressure the vast majority of viewers? Fuck Disney. Keep canceling Disney. This isn’t any kind of victory for free speech.
Why does anyone give a shit about Sinclair and Nextstar?
Because they own roughly 80% of all local tv stations in the US combined and de facto control most of the rest as well. They’re basically the Texas Board of Education of local news if not WORSE.
Why the fuck do they think they can pressure the vast majority of viewers?
Because most if not all of the ABC affiliates you referred to are owned by them. The vast majority have no (legal) alternative
Because Sinclair and Nextstar have local monopolies and defacto veto power over broadcasts? The move from Disney forces Sinclair to take the heat for caving and censorship. (Disney sucks for a LOT of reasons, and they should never have caved to begin with but reversing was the right thing to do)
Caving in the first place means they cannot be trusted as one of the few remaining media conglomerates.
Boycott, divest, they will do it again.
Wait, did someone expect HIM to apologize?
I mean, watching it, he did apologize. And then to proclaim that he loved Jesus…
Yeah, I tuned out after that. People expecting Kimmel to be on the same level as Jon Stewart or John Oliver are delusional. Kimmel is more like Fallon, just with better jokes.
Kimmel also glossed over how Erika Kirk’s forgiveness was fake after, especially since it resembled a WWE broadcast.
And, I don’t watch him, but follow the news regarding all of them, and last night stayed up to watch it, soon as he did that I noped out.
Oh and donate to kirks ToiletPaper USA as per sinclair’s demands, glad he didn’t bend any knees.
You mean so I can wipe my ass eoyh Kirk’s face?
Full Streisand effect for me: I have watched 2 Kimmel videos in the past week or so - and none in the decades before that. And I laughed. Thanks MAGA, I guess.
Dressing up as a banana always works for me.
And I can’t believe I’m writing this but Ted Cruz is right (watch the video if you don’t get it).
It makes me wonder how much ad spots cost for that night. Cancel the show, cancel all previous ad spots. Put the show back on, resell spots for double.
I know nothing about advertising, I assume the rate is based on time slot, but I just wouldn’t put it past the network somehow profiting off of this.
I guess neither Kimmel nor Colbert are getting poorer here, but they’re still doing god’s work.
How was it not an apology when he said:
- It was never his intention to make light of the murder of Kirk.
- That he asks for compassion.
- That he’s not blaming any specific group.
- That the alleged shooter was a deeply disturbed and sick individual.
- That he gets why people were upset about his previous remarks.
- That he has many friends and family members on the opposite side politically.
- That violence is never the solution.
- That the people on the right he knows and loves don’t send him death threats.
not answering the question but want to point out “violence is never the solution” is propaganda. examples where violence is the solution include pretty much every country that had a war for independence
“Violence is never the solution”
Also:
“… the right to bear arms shall not be infringed”
“Castle Doctrine”
18 U.S. Code § 2381: “Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death”
“When the looting starts, the shooting starts”
So… why do we have guns again, if we cant use them since that’s “violence”?
If someone invades my house, aren’t I suppose to shoot the fucker like a good patriotic American?
🤔
None of that is an apology. An apology says 'Im sorry," and none of that says that. I’m glad he didn’t apologize, he didn’t say anything wrong.
AND he went hard after Brendan Carr AND Trump.
No, that wasn’t an apology, that was gloating that he was back on the air, despite their efforts.
Fuck those treasonous MAGA Nazis.
All of it is an apology. An apology is just an explanation given after the fact. He felt the need to explain his actions further.
To be a full and complete apology many people expect all three of these components, but not All three are essential to every apology.
- an acknowledgment of harm,
- an expression of remorse,
- a pledge of recompense.
You could argue that he didn’t do a full and complete apology but you can’t argue that he didn’t apologize.
By this definition you have just apologized for Rose’s post.
Yes. I am often an apologist for incomplete but well intentioned reasoning I encounter in the wild.
I try to first understand before I criticize and that has helped me to interpret other people’s words better.
An apology is not a bad thing or a good thing. It is a thing.
There are plenty of apologies that could be delivered that would meet those criteria and also be really mean things to say that do not make someone feel better.
I think this definition of an apology is too far from common usage to be reasonably expected to be understood, and too broad to be useful in general.
If you want to refine your definition so that it’s more than just an “explanation” (already have a word for that) I could maybe get on board.
And, to be honest, I’m a little bit worried about how one comes to equate an explanation with an apology. My gut tells me this definition creep might be a red flag of a victim of an abusive narcissist.
It is true that “apology” is an overloaded term that can mean many things, depending on context.
You’ve stripped away the context (and therefore bent the word’s meaning here). The substance of what MAGA wanted was an expression of remorse. They thrive on instilling fear and shame in others. They loath details and nuance.
Lexical gymnastics don’t change the simple fact that Kimmel (1) did not express shame for what he said and instead (2) reiterated useful details and nuance. Both of these things oppose the MAGA movement, and that’s a good thing.
What he said tonight was consistent with the instagram post he made before all the controversy:
He specifically did not address his statement that the MAGA crowd was desperate to paint the shooter as anyone other than one of them.
Which was an accurate statement, the right was making claims of “leftist violence” even before the shooter was identified, and they STILL are making the claims even though the shooters voter registration is unaffiliated with either party AND he failed to vote in 2024 or 2022 (he would have been only 17 in 2020).
Also remember that the ONLY information we have originates from Kash Patel’s FBI, and Pam Bondo’s DOJ. I assume that literally every single word I hear from them, or any other MAGA agency, is a complete LIE.
THEY say he’s a liberal? I don’t believe it for a second.
That is what worries me. Kimmel was doing good work pointing out to everybody that they were trying to use this to go after their political enemies with the awesome power of the state and their private groups supported by the state. Now no seeming mention of it? We won a big victory , how exactly?
If he is now too scared to address the administration nurturing Brown Shirts to Target critics and opponents and media then that is a major victory for them.
And make no mistake, that is where are the administration is going with this, full Nazi. Luckily they are incompetent as shit but I would not expect that to stop them forever, not the least given the lackluster opposition.
Clarifying his comments is hardly an apology. If anything it’s a “fuck you morons, this is what was meant, go watch the bit if you were too stupid to get it the first time”.
Sounds like he is pretending he said something wrong before.
That the right are using it to crack down on civil society, et al,is true, if kimmil is now ignoring that he can fuck off there is no use of his being there if too afraid to call out these thinly veiled attacks.
Apology for what? He did nothing wrong.
It’s all about showing loyalty to those in power.
Ok nuggie…
SS
Might want to reconsider that name or add a the
Maybe nuggie is a Super Sport model …
“It was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man,” Kimmel said Tuesday, getting choked up. “I don’t think there’s anything funny about it.”
Thats the thing tho Jimmy… It is fucking funny as shit.
Hilarious, even. Especially since he leaned left.
MAGA on MAGA violence is best case scenario. I want more MAGA on MAGA violence. MORRREEE!
Ironic, maybe, but not funny. Nothing about any of this is funny.
I’m laughing. Fuck Charlie Kirk.
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The irony is whats funny.
There was a lot to navigate successfully and I think he did a great job doing so.
Clarified without apologizing, hit Carr and Trump pretty hard, brushed off Sinclair and Nexstar entirely except to tell people his show is not available in certain markets, and stepped into the free speech moment to highlight others at risk and something else we should all be aware of (Hegseth’s loyalty pledge demand).
Any apology would be dead wrong. There is nothing to apologize about.
I cracked up at the Disney requiring him to say one thing part.
They aren’t getting my money back.
What?
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Fuck Sinclair and Nexstar.
And he opened with a Jack Paar line, how Iconic.
