Welp…
At least give it a cool name like The (John) Galt Party or something so it has a better change of splitting the right. I guess the nazi party was already taken?
he’s just so bad with names. Surprised he didn’t call it the X Party. wouldn’t that have been more “cool”? surprised he didn’t ask Grok to come up with party names, I mean hell I use chatgpt to come up with names for videogame characters and it works well.
This is going to fizzle out when he inevitably gets distracted by something else.
gets distracted
Oh you mean the next K-hole? Tonight?
He isn’t trying to split the right, he actually thinks he can win because he’s a fucking narcissist. So they will siphon votes from Democrats by pretending to be pro-Gaza and all of the kids who refuse to read a fucking book will buy it and vote for them.
What could go wrong?
Cool so a third liberal party
I’m all for it. If Brewster’s Millions taught me anything it’s that involving yourself in US politics is the quickest way to lose vast sums of money.
Wow this might just turn Elon Musk into a millionaire.
Ross Perot 2.0
Opportunity for a 4-way split? Sanders and AOC can make a new party called “Freedom Party” so we can have something other than the establishments.
Now do another 10 or 20 parties more and maybe america could finally become a democratic country.
You support Elon Musk’s party because the Republicans ripped you off.
I support Elon Musk’s party because it will dilute the voters.
We are not equal.
What a stupid name for it
I’m just shocked it’s not the X Party.
I was rooting for Lemon Party.
I’m not sure if I want this to fail or succeed.
Best case scenario is it will split the right wing vote. In Canada, we’re used to it going the other way with conservatives taking advantage of a split left.
Washington Post columnists said it would probably just capture the “Never Trumper” moderate Republican voters who currently begrudgingly vote Democratic because they understand that the Republican Party is nominating only yes-men and fascists.
Republican never Trumper that doesn’t vote GOP is likely vanishingly small. They all fall in line.
It might siphon off the GOP voters that begrudingly fell in line because they bought the Communist Kamala or something, or the ones that needed to see Trump disaster a second time.
Washington Post isn’t exactly a beacon of truth and justice.
Especially not their opinion column but I’m just posting here because it’s interesting to see what the neoliberals think about it and it’s a good discussion point
Washington Post is Murdoch connected as of December 2023 (new leader and Bezos began to flex his muscles at the paper). I hesitate to call it neoliberal. It’s moved right of that.
If you actually bother to read it (regularly, not just once or twice on selected columns that you saw posted online), you would not think that. The opinion column is very neoliberal with a hint of libertarianism.
And why would Bezos say otherwise?
The Dems leaned hard on the never Trumpers for votes last year and you can see where that got them. Elon can have them.
Same with the USA, the US Green Party is funded by Conservative PACs such as Badger Values. If there were left unity then the 8 million people who showed up for Biden 2020 would have shown up for Harris 2024, but a lot of people are convinced the DNC aren’t left enough and that primary elections are shams.
I think it already has.
I want it to split republicans and have both of them spectacularly fail elections.
Yes.
I want this to succeed wildly.
Is it splits the Republican vote, I’m all for it
Success means a split of the Republicans, because the vast majority of Dems aren’t going to follow Elon after these last few months.
If it splits the republican party and removes the old white billionaires from the dems than I’m 100% for it.
I want him to split the GOP vote. Basically just a Jill Stein that believes his own swill.
I want this to succeed in the destruction of both the GOP and Just in.
Yeah…
At best, it splits the MAGAt vote, making Dems a clear winner.
At worst, it takes some GenZ dipshit votes away from Dems and causes chaos.
Gen z men are already voting republican
You should check those numbers, because it went 51% to Harris. Splitting that means good things for Dems though. Dilution through stupidity.
All/most of them, or a few mediagenic alt-right examples the press can trot out as proof of “young men want fascism and Latin Mass” when they run out of MAGA-hatted Ordinary Americans in flyover-state diners?
Dumb little bastards, voting against their own interests
Cut the age blame crap. They did nothing different than the rest of our society. Don’t let our generations fall for the same tactics as the generations before us. Our war needs to be a class war, not some stupid “young people are lazy nowadays” bullshit that EVERY high horse ignorant person has said for the last 200 years. Do the youth a favor and look upon anyone who singles them out and trys to separate us with disgrace. Respect is a 2 way street. Let’s be better
I think your beef should be with all men then. As Trump voters increased in men by age. So you could factually say Gen Z men were the least likely to vote for Trump as well
Is it bad that I just expect a split Right-wing vote just allows the Dems to slide even more right and still win?
Hopefully it has success at breaking us from our failed two party system, while at the same time the party itself fails (and costs him lot of money in the process).
Breaking the US from the failed 2-party system would require replacing first-past-the-post voting with at least ranked choice, if not a proportional system like Hare-Clarke, and probably scrapping the Electoral College altogether. Which may require constitutional amendments, or at least a partisan Supreme Court sympathetic to more democracy that would Chewbacca-defence it through regardless of legality.
Pretty sure they hoped something similar about Hitler.
We’ll need ranked choice (or some other voting scheme other than First Past The Post). Otherwise it’ll just end up the same as it always has.
I’ll gladly accept a reactionary centrist spoiler party into the mix. Especially if it coincides with the Clinton wing of the DNC losing its ability to maintain its grip on power.
Elon Musk, the neonazi, centrist?
What is the “Clinton wing” of the DNC?
The Dems who, since the shock of the Reagan revolution, swore off having a political project beyond “don’t make it worse” but accidentally foreclosed on making things better in the process. More recently, they’ve been heard saying things like “nothing will fundamentally change” in the face of a political situation that is very different from 40 years earlier.
Basically all the powerful Dems since Bill Clinton. Groups like the Democratic Leadership Council. They’ll poo poo ideas that regularly poll at 80% support across all parties, then spend all their political capital barely carrying a compromise position with 48% support across the finish line.
I really hope that we’re reaching a tipping point where people who believe in a better world and pursue policies to bring it about can have sustained political success
Same as it ever was. Same. As. It. Ever. Was
Need new rules in House and Senate, too. The majority party gets majority in all the committees, gets to pick all the committee chairs, etc. All of the current non-D/non-R members ‘caucus’ with one of the major parties, making them de facto members of that party. A third party with enough representation to block the other two from gaining majority would almost certainly end up in an alliance with one, leaving us back with functional two-party politics.
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No it won’t. Nothing musk does is in good faith. Fuck his party, and fuck anyone who supports it.
I’m smelling Musk’s typical brand of vaporware.
Is that why he’s suddenly criticizing Trump? He thinks he can split the Democratic vote?
I don’t think he’s THAT delusional. But he might be targeting the libertarian crypto fiends and techno-fascists that have gathered around the MAGA platform during the last election.
He can fuck right off. I don’t believe him and Trump are actually at odds and I think this is an attempt to create an opposition party that’s even more under conservative control than the Democrats are.
The chances that a real Elon party signifigantly stealing votes from the Republicans to the point it causes an actual vote split is basically nil. The voter base is stupid, but not so stupid to hand a brand new party anything out of the gate.
Now, controlled opposition, is a foundation of the farce that is Russian democracy, and both DT and Elon are staunch admirers of Putin’s system where its a mob masquerading as a government with total control
Yup. At best, this is an attempt at spoiling republican votes to piss off Donald. At worst, it’s an attempt to consolidate power by ensuring all of the followers are united.
This is the wildest take I’ve seen so far.
It would split the vote amongst the least same, and consolidate the vote for Dems.
What’s the upside for Musk here?
Government contracts for his money-hommorhaging companies. A direct link to corrupt world leaders. The fascists aren’t above rigging elections and I have zero doubt that if they could they’d put control in the hands of the Republicans and place this new bullshit party in over Dems.
We’re not in a “normal” America, anymore. Billionaires absolutely cannot be trusted.
Exactly! Democrats have been LAZER FOCUSED at making Their voters Happy NO MATTER How Many Republicans they Piss Off!
While on one hand I hope that people realize this is literally their government being purchased by a single rich guy and push back… I know they’re far too stupid for that.
A single rich guy that self-confessed that he illegally immigrated to this country.
I’ve got bad news for you, our government is already owned by the rich. Every government is. That’s the whole point of having a government, it’s how the rich control others.
Pretty naive take on how governments work.
Surely if anything it’s cynical rather than naive.
Too simplistic to be cynical, just naive.
It’s just what the evidence from pre-history through history supports.
The rich are the government - from local ‘big men’ style rulers, councils of nobles, mercantile empires from Assyria to the US, to local governments that serve property developers.
The history of the state is the rich working out ever more sophisticated ways of getting what they want without revolt.
Shut the fuck up, that is not true in the slightest.
The most powerful in every society are the ones with the most resources and they’ve always been the ones with the free time to operate a government, which they use to pursue and secure their interests.
As far back as we have written and archaeological evidence of heirarchical institutions existing, they have been controlled by and on behalf of the rich and powerful.
What kind of shitty click bait is this?
The richest man in the world officially announced on Saturday that he has officially formed a new political party to challenge Republicans and Democrats alike.
He fucking tweeted that it was created, literally nothing official.
He didn’t say it, he declared it.
I DECLARE THE AMERICAN PARTY!!!
And when the president tweets it’s for some reason official and should be followed… We live in a really stupid age where the government and politics in the US is governed by social media.
All it takes is for one determined furry to pull up their programming socks and hack into Truth Social and start posting under Trump’s name and we’ll see that dry up real quick, unless he wants to make all his official announcements surrounded by uwu’s and lewd pictures of Pokémon.
Dollars to donuts it’s going to be stupid easy to do as well, because Trump is incapable of hiring competent employees or of paying whoever he does hire.
Nothing has disappointed me quite so much as leftist US hackers. I refuse to believe that your tech-savvy disrupters are all Nazis.
“I’m making a new political party it will be 10x cheaper and reusable.” - Melon, probably
…but the nazi party already existed.
