AOC would receive my vote.
She’s an amazing candidate. I’d vote for her. I dunno about the rest of the country tho. They seem to really appreciate white men when it comes time to vote. All other issues be damned.
Just let the white man win better than this orange one in office. we know both sides still prefer them stop fighting this bullshit
Fake news right? To call this SHOCK gotta be better not the same.
Anyone here who seriously thinks Democrats will win without playing dirty and purging Republican votes in the millions? Please CMV.
Is there even going to be another election?
If about 3.5% of people organize and stand up, then probably, yeah. Not without them, though. That’s about what it takes for social change.
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Stop with this shit. It’s 2025. This is stupid.
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Women can’t be president in America. We have a shitty culture that prevents that from happening. We keep trying, we keep failing. If you want to win, find another candidate with a dick. That’s a requirement in America. Not saying I like it. Just saying that’s reality.
Women can’t be president in America. We have a shitty culture that prevents that from happening. We keep trying, we keep failing.
Tried twice with two exceptionally shitty candidates. Blaming Hillary and Harris’s losses on their sex is a massive cop-out. Trump should have been destroyed in every election he ran in, but the only time he lost was with the weight of a worldwide pandemic working against him, and then, he wasn’t exactly blown out of the water.
A woman can definitely be president in America. But as long as people like you blame the losses on that, the actual reasons these candidates are losing will never be fixed.
It’s time to take some accountability.
Harris was less than 2% behind, and Clinton was ahead in the popular vote. I don’t think gender was not a factor, but I also don’t think it was a major one.
Nah, women can. The Democrats just keep picking bad candidates. That’s all.
AOC is great, but probably still a bad candidate.
I would go with Taylor Swift. It’s about charisma and following, and at least some proven progressive credentials. She fits the counter-counter culture narrative perfectly.
If that was the case Hilary would have not won the popular vote
Bernie would have won the presidency.
Voting for Hillary was voting because I felt like I had to. Voting for Bernie felt like voting because I WANTED to. I’m sure many Americans felt the same way.
It’s possible, but Trump would have to fuck up really bad over and over and over again right before election day and have dementia so bad he couldn’t even say his name anymore and the race between a woman and Trump’s 3rd term would still be close
I’d like to think it’s close because the republicans purged the rolls of most democrats, but it’s probably just the misogyny
We should just have two women run for president and force the issue!
And tragically, that’s how America elected a third party candidate.
Hillary needs to run in 2028. It is Hillary her turn. Again. This has nothing to do with them being horrible candidates. Only misogyny is responsible.
Not only that, the establishment Democrat will win the primary due to the progressive vote being split over infighting among 50 different primary candidates. That’s how we ended up with Biden.
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Defeatists ignoring the number of people attending her rallies recently.
Jfc here we fuckin go again. Lemme guess DNC, this will totally be an open primary right? Anyone can win?
yeah, zero interest in supporting kamala “keep arming isreal” fucking harris again.
Yeah Trump was definitely better choice for this. Thank God we got Trump eh
We should just vote 3rd party instead LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Pushing the progressives to ditch the DNC. Then start their own party or lead another would have been a much better plan.
Yeah okay pack it in boys, we’re screwed lol.
Why even bother to run a primary at this point? Just let the DNC select their candidate so we can skip out on the 6 months of sham and shilling.
spoiler
Also told all yall we need progressives to split from DNC and form a fresh 3rd party bruh.
On the bright side, if the DNC runs Kamala or Shapiro maybe itll leave rank and file democrats hungry for some other alternative to the garbage candidates forced down their throats.
If Harris was a leader she would be out there touring like AOC. Shes not a leader. She had her shot to prove otherwise and didn’t.
I mean, if I were her I’d feel drained and devastated. Everything that happened during the election and people still picked Trump over her…
I have a hard time feeling sorry for her after leaving the left hanging and going after conservative votes. She made an incredibly poor strategic choice and it cost all of us.
Obviously she’s not the only one to blame here, conservatives deserving the majority of blame followed by people that stayed home, but she doesn’t deserve pity.
… not to mention she didn’t ask for a recount. That one was a red flag for me.
A recount requires a vote to be close, it wasn’t. Trump won every swing state. And with the margins he won by, every recount in the world would not overcome the 86 EVs she trailed by.
The election results were very close - and it was a big election, some ballots were rejected, there were bomb threats and there were also statistical anomalies. She should have asked for a recount.
Pity maybe not, but understanding definitely. If that were me ya’ll picked Trump over I’d tell all ya’ll to fuck right off while I prep a boat to Europe. Then all the people saying I should stay out of it would be bitching that I’m not participating anymore.
Exactly. If I were her, I’d fuck off to Europe and send a big fat middle finger to everyone asking for help.
Is that in the best interests of the American people? No. Is it an entirely understandable reaction? Yes.
If I were her, I’d fuck off to Europe and send a big fat middle finger to everyone asking for help.
Sending a big fat middle finger to everyone asking for help was basically her campaign.
If she’s still drained and devastated months after losing, she’s not emotionally mature enough to be president. What’s going to happen the first time a soldier gets killed in combat? At least Hillary has some cajones, Harris never gave me that impression.
You feel sorry for that god awful campaign?
Like when she was up there giving her chatgpt, “make me sound inspirational” concession speech rather than just being mad as hell like the rest of us. She’s plays leader but she will sit in the manager cubical while the rest of us eat the company provided cold turkey in the break room the day before Thanksgiving.
If she were out there touring people would tell her to shut up and sit down. She had her shot, twice, nobody wants what she’s selling.
I can’t imagine thinking about “serving people” when majority of them turned out to be hateful idiots that frankly deserve getting their faces eaten by a leopard. Let her catch a break maybe?
Completely agree. It would have demonstrated that she would have been a good president and it would have sealed the deal for her (if there are legit elections). She didn’t step up. AOC did. Says a lot about each of them.
Usual: If you voted 3rd party or didn’t vote, you signed off on our current reality.
But you’re not wrong, and I have plenty to disagree with AOC about, but they’re all conversations for a better time; done and done.
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You’re talking to someone who was vehemently campaigning for her during the general. She didn’t fail any purity test. She failed at having a good strategy, and it was pretty obvious at the time she was making a big gamble. And I articulated this during the election, while telling all the 3rd party voters on lemmy that they were fucking morons.
Kamala is trash, simple as. She failed horrendously.
Why on earth would you run kamala again? The democrats can’t afford to learn anymore lessons. School is out. Time to start producing.
Why on earth would you run kamala again?
democrats would nominate trump if the alternative was a progressive.
Why on earth would you run kamala again?
Because you thought watching her faceplant in 2020 was hilarious and you want a repeat.
Only a shock to folks who still think Democrat centerists are what’s gonna win the votes
“We want to maintain the status quo that led to the election of Trump twice!”
A Democratic centrist literally polled at #1. It’s in the headline.
Needs a little Asterisk* next to centrist and a footnote
*still way further left than any Republican
AOC is a progressive. Harris was too, prior to her role as VP.
You guys still think there will be free elections in 2028?
Yes. I do expect that. Your pansy lay down and die attitude might allow Trump to have a third term though.
Why is Harris even mentioned? She should disappear like Hillary.
Nobody wants this person to run again.
Anyone doing a poll would be negligent not to include the previous nominee and former vice president. That’s not to imply she’s a good choice, only that she’s an obvious choice.
Good point 👍
I’m fine with her running in a Primary.
Harris polls in 1st place
Lemmy Leftists: “no one wants Harris!”
Y’all are in a bubble.
We’ll see how your fucking bubble turns out when the time comes. Harris couldnt even beat fucking Trump and you think she will win a primary? Batshit.
Harris couldnt even beat fucking Trump and you think she will win a primary?
These are democratic primaries we’re talking about.
The same ones shes literally already lost before? Insane.
It’s literally in the title. First place.
What an obnoxious and aggressive person. Yikes
This bro lives in a bubble with steel plating.
Nah, thats you.
A lot more people show up to listen to people like AOC. Harris is MIA.
Get out of your bubble
A crowd of 30,000 in a metropolitan area of 3 Million people. We don’t need our best to draw the biggest crowds we need them to get the most votes.
