cross-posted from: https://freefree.ps/users/faab64/statuses/114885039540867898
For as long as I live, I will never forget that the whole world watched Israel starve 2 million innocent people in Gaza, killing children on a daily basis and did nothing to stop it, even worse, punished those trying to end it and helped, funded, protected and armed the genocidal regime of Netanyahu.
#NeverAgain #NeverForget #NeverForgive #Gaza #Israel #Genocide #USpol #EUpol #Politics
@palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe @israel @lebanon @syria @iran
I guess all the people who got “detained” for writing about it, and all the protesters and such aren’t part of the “whole world”
That’s the bit you take from this post? What a ridiculous thing to point out.
I despise absurd over generalizations. And this post implied all the people trying to do something did nothing. That’s beyond rude.
how does it feel to sniff your own farts this fucking hard
The hell does that mean
Dude, the person you’re replying to has lost the fucking plot. What a baffling Lemmy history. It’s like the linked shit take was grown in a lab to be optimally shit: any less and it’s less shit, any more and it’s less plausible someone believes this, making it less shit.
The person in question has negative karma. It’s a troll. Let’s not feed the trolls.
ah so people not liking what you say means troll. i guess that means you can never be wrong then. is that not convenient for you.
BETYU seems like an obvious troll, or really stupid. The lack of grammar seems to point in the direction of the latter.
yes because bringing up grammar means you are correct
I mean, one cause could be that you are dyslexic, of course. Or have some other type of disorder. Something is definitely off with you, for sure.
only people with no arguments bring up grammar to distract from the fact that they have no arguments. it makes you a joke.
Bro you just can’t stop, can you.
The person you’re responding to is a supporter of authoritarians and has condoned fascism in their replies. They also virulently oppose any view points, entertaining no other ideas except singular support for one and only one point of view. They are awful and clearly a troll on a mission.
I am beginning to think the real gripe Zionists have with Hitler is that it wasn’t them who got to do the genociding.
you don’t see any irony in responding in this way to me saying some people really like the sound of there own voice. i think you are high on your own supply. and that’s very funny to see no selflessness at all. supporter of authoritarians and has condoned fascism in their replies top tier reply dude
We see you for what you are.
doom
Yeah troll just as I thought
its almost like you have never used the internet before. because why else would you call everything you don’t like a troll. you don’t see me calling you a troll.
It’s like you’ve never used the Internet before.
It means they will suck Netan-yahoo’s dick whatever herpes infested AIDS secretion that comes out of it and spit it into their dogs asshole while jerking off with peanut butter so the dog can lick it off when they’re done.
you seem like you have bigger problems to deal with then Zionists. maybe seek help.
Beyond never forgetting is a lifelong bitterness.
OP, literally Rule 1 bullet point 1 of this comm. This is a community for news articles.
This is bigger than the rules.
Okay, so it can go in one of the like 500 communities where this is relevant. If it’s bigger than the rules, why did OP, with one exception, choose to do none of that and instead exclusively post it into news communities where it’s not supposed to be? Where it will quickly get removed?
“This is bigger than the rules”, I say like a jackass, as I go post this into a community about artisinal cheeses.
Where it will quickly get removed?
Apparently not that quickly. OP is shown as “15 hours ago,” as of right now.
It seems like @jordanlund@lemmy.world is the only active mod of this comm. Plausible it slipped past them. So in the event 1) the rules are actually enforced with literally any consistency and 2) jordan notices, it ought to be removed quickly. As best I can tell, our OP who was too lazy to just post one of the mountain of news articles lucked out.
Wow, 1 active mod for a sub with this level of activity? I actually don’t know what would be considered typical, but gut instinct tells me more than 1.
Yeah, I was offline doing “husband work” the last couple of days. I’m catching up now!
27 unresolved reports in World… whee!
lemmy.world DOES have a bot that notifies all mods when they start stacking up. I’ll see what’s up!
Card says moop vibes.
Are you referring to the actual Seinfield scene or the Alt-Right Playbook video? I can’t figure it out because they’re equally irrelevant.
I don’t have the bandwidth to explain if you don’t want to see it. He broke rule 1 and he’s a jackass for condemning child genocide in world@lemmy.world. Ban him. Based on what I see here, I’m sure artisanal cheese is way better suited for that type of discussion anyway.
Dude, I don’t even have the bandwidth to translate this comment into a coherent English paragraph. As best I can tell, it’s just a bizarre strawman about banning(???) instead of removing an off-topic post, and it’s done as a deflection from you “not having the bandwidth” (read: being unable because you know it was nonsense) to justify why you called it “card says moops”.
Legit confused on why you got down voted so hard. I am guessing people are confused by your comment, see the edit and decide to downvote you just because it feels right
Because “its bigger than the rules” is stupid. There is tens of thousands of posts on lemmy covering this topic.
Whatever. I believe my words.
So think of it this way. A person signs up for lemmy, by choosing specific communities to join they are giving consent for a specific range of information to be delivered to thier screen. By breaking the rules of a community you are essentially violating the consent of the members of that community.
I feel your struggle though. You want to do “something”. The vast majority of people on the planet do too. And there doesn’t seem to be a community for just bringing up a topic in general. I assume they are just too hard to moderate. But that doesn’t make it right to just break the rules of this community.
By breaking the rules of a community you are essentially violating the consent of the members of that community.
Boards like these are public or at least quasi public spaces. No one is actually forcing you to read or engage with any specific post or comment.
I would say that significant deviation from the intended content of the community is one thing. Personal attacks, intentional misinformation, arguing in bad faith, harassment, etc has no place. But claiming that OP “violated people’s consent” has a serious connotation, and I think it is a real stretch to apply that here.
If the post bothers you enough, you can always report it and then simply ignore the post. Even block the OP, especially if they have a pattern of behavior that your find inappropriate.
I didn’t imply any connotations. Any added to the phrase is done so by the reader. So it doesn’t invalidate the validity of the statement. People signed up for the content the community described. This post is not that. People are debating that, and I am sharing my opinion. Just because I could take various actions to prevent it in the future, doesn’t make the original action ok. Saying otherwise is just justifing more posts of this kind.
I didn’t imply any connotations.
Imply? You straight up said, and I quote “violating the consent of the members of that community.”
People signed up for the content the community described. This post is not that.
Social media is never going to be 100% the content that is described in the sidebar or forum description. There’s always going to be some deviation, some off-topic, and some marginal content. I didn’t sign up for meta debate about whether the act of posting non-conforming content is violating people’s consent or not, yet here we are.
Just because I could take various actions to prevent it in the future, doesn’t make the original action ok.
The stakes on this are super low such that actions to prevent it in the future, and the options that you have available to you, are good enough. The original action may be dubious, but it frankly isn’t that big of a deal. OP didn’t post something that is abusive, misinformation, or otherwise harmful. Nor have they been spamming posts here. You are spending more time worrying about it than it would have taken you to simply ignore the post and move on.
If this is truly an issue for you, you should stick to more tightly-moderated segments of social media. That may admittedly be difficult to find on Lemmy due to the lower user base; another commenter pointed out that there is only 1 active mod for this sub. You may find that the modding on some of the larger Reddit subs to be more to your liking.
Anyhow, I’ve said my piece and I’m moving on.
Can I ask if you seriously care about downvotes? Also, some downvotes and one comment is a pretty low bar for “dog piling.”
I get what you’re saying though. It’s important enough that it should be everywhere. But is that what op did? Idc enough to check every instance but maybe they didn’t and that’s why no one likes your comment?
Ftr, I lean a bit in your favor for your original comment or at least your intention. I do downvote every post that bitches about downvotes though.
I feel like this is the issue that will haunt us forever if we don’t stand on the right side. That’s it. I’ve fought for Palestinian rights in one form or another since the second Intifada. My ex, a photo Jordanian journalist, opened my eyes to this 25 years ago.
There’s no other moral or ethical way.
No one disagrees with that and it wasn’t why you were downvoted.
I don’t think anyone is arguing your opinion, it’s just this is not the right venue for an opinion.
It’s a self published opinion news story. I trust this author more than those rags like newsweek and the daily beast that get green light all the time on here
So, an opinion piece?
I would like to see Newsweek blacklisted here too. Would you like to advocate for that, or would you like to sit around and whataboutism for a Mastodon post that you’re trying to dishonestly distort into a “self published opinion news story”?
And even if you’re seriously going to pretend you buy your own “card says moops” bullshit when you say that, what do you have to say to the final bullet point of Rule 1 that disallows links to other social media “like Twitter”?
It’s up to mods how they rule this place. I just say it’s dumb and I’m not dishonest at all anyone can be a journalist and everyone can get published and I don’t know why the opinion of the owner of newsweek and similar yellow press should decide what is posted here and what not.
I don’t know why the opinion of the owner of newsweek and similar yellow press should decide what is posted here and what not.
Alright, instead of falling for a farcical red herring and debating the merits of a Mastodon post as “self published opinion news”, I’ll cut to the heart of the matter: what the fuck are you talking about?
- Palestinians describe choice between starvation and risking death to get food aid in Gaza from PBS News two hours ago
- Updates: 18 in Gaza die from starvation in one day amid Israeli blockade from Al Jazeera today
- Four-year-old girl dies of hunger in Gaza as Israel throttles food supply from CNN today
- Malnutrition reaches new heights in Gaza, children most affected from the Agence France-Presse today
- Pope condemns Gaza war’s ‘barbarity’ as 85 reported killed while waiting for food from The Guardian today
- Officials say 85 Palestinians seeking aid are killed in Gaza as Israel widens evacuation orders from the Associated Press today
- Nearly 100 people killed seeking aid in Gaza on Sunday, Palestinian officials say from NPR today
- Israel fire kills dozens more aid seekers in Gaza, medics say, as hunger worsens from USA Today today
- Israeli Troops Kill Dozens Seeking Food Near Border, Gazan Officials Say from The New York Times today
And that’s just about the starvation and just from today and just that short because I couldn’t be bothered to spend more than five minutes looking. All of these sources are allowed here; none of them are yellow press. Quit your bullshit; nobody’s gatekeeping this, and if they were, it wouldn’t be Newsweek et al.
True nobody’s gatekeeping this, the post is still up.
In other words, a blog post.
A lot of news is just blog posts on a site that claims to be more than a vlog. But is it really. Sometimes what gets classified as news is poorly researched as fuck. And then this “news” end up on trashy blog sites that run 10x more ads than most blog sites. I don’t buy appeal to authority fallacies so the fact that those articles are written by “journalists” is irrelevant. Modern journalists don’t act like journalists because they write crap.
90% of news is a hair away from blog spam once you ask the Socratic questions, what is blog? what is news?
i’ve watched Americans ignore child prisoners literally 3 feet away from them
Americans will ignore anything
their eyes aren’t connected to anything, they don’t understand what it is to be a person
When did the Gaza death toll jump to 2 million?
Claim was starve, not kill.
That’s great news!
No.
Netanyahu, the man who tried to make the Nazi propaganda a reality
Israel just perfected the things that were done to them in ww2. They learned from the germans
They learned from the germans
Who learned from the USA’s treatment of indigenous people of North America.
Of course the US supports the genocide in Palestine, genocide is their national heritage.
Yes! Isreal has perfected the art of exterminating an entire population, its sick.
Nazis killed 10k-20k people every day in a factory-like process during the height of The Holocaust.
IDF has caused (by Hamas’s estimate) roughly 60k people to die in Gaza over about 2 years, or 653 days. If we just average that, it’s about 100 people every day. It’s unknown how many of these are civilian and how many are soldiers. There’s no reason to believe that there’s any genocidal process the likes of Final Solution.
So doing the math, they’d have to kill about 100 times more people to even reach peak nazi levels.
As for perfection, it seems to me that history shows that our species has always been quite good at completely destroying peoples. Nazis just industrialized the concept.
the disgusting “perfection” is that they are doing this with the support and financing of all the govt of “civilized world”, live streaming and celebrating it. all this when they have zero public support across the world. some how they are able to override the will of all the voters to murder children on daily basis with our taxes while we are struggling for affordable housing and grocery.
compare this to nazis who were shameful to hide the camps even from their own people and most of the army.
this level of scheming and shamelessness has never happened in history of all human conflicts.
“The world” is under US control, ergo US allowed Israel to commit genocide. Fuck you USA, the Evil empire of our times.
all trillion dollar petrostates nearby thank you for shifting the blame onto the usa somehow 😃
The petrodollar system is still in effect- 80% of all oil trade is done in dollars, and if you try to move away from it you get invaded and become a puppet state.
See: Iraq
Russia has entered the chat (but has been here the whole time)
Yemen did something and we bombed them for it
Yeah, they killed a bunch of Philippine sailors. That’ll teach Israel a lesson, eh?
Hurt by Houthi blockade, debt-ridden Eilat port seeks aid to help it stay afloat
Unless plea to Economy Ministry is heeded, southern port could shut down as soon as Sunday; activity has dived over 90% amid Iran-backed Yemeni rebels terrorizing Red Sea shipping
I think I tracked down the source for that image. It seems to be by Omar Al-Qattaa and pictures a child in Gaza with cerebral palsy and malnutrition. According to this, Malnutrition can be a side-effect of cerebral palsy, due to difficulties swallowing etc. Which is probably made harder by the war, which is bad, but not reflective of the general population.
It’s always pretty hard to find the sources for these images and when you do, it often has some special circumstances or is just from Yemen or smth.
Apart from that, are there no rules here for news-articles or NSFL tags?
Oh, geez. He’s got CP. That definitely invalidates the importance of the message and image.
It does make it misleading. If it was included in an article with the context, that would be fine. I believe most people joined this particular community to read news articles, not to see who can find an image that out of context supports thier political view.
Hahahahahhaha!
Jesus christ!
I always wondered, do they pay people like you in rubles or do you just do this in your spare time out of conviction?
I think finding sources for things is good. It doesn’t invalidate the message; there are plenty of photographs of malnourished children in Gaza without CP. Was it internally misleading? I don’t know. But I think we can assume the benefit of the doubt that the writer just chose an image from search results that looked emaciated.
They usually pay people to spread the misinformation.
Kill all the “leaders” who don’t actively fight against the support towards Israel. Ain’t nothing going to change otherwise.
Even “progressive” presidents like Finland’s Alexander Stubb and their prime minister Petteri Orpo deserve to die, they’re still willing to deal arms with murderers
Actively enabled and supported in the most vehement manner
Flood the zone. People can’t even keep track.
Mossad ran Epstein’s pedophile ring by the way.
Let’s not forget that this genocide is proudly supported by “the land of the free” propagandists, ruling class and population.
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/if-youre-still-supporting-israel
If you’re still supporting Israel in the year 2025, there’s something seriously wrong with you as a person. You do not have a normal, healthy sense of empathy and morality.
There’s no way to deny what this is anymore. If you still support Israel in the year 2025, it’s not because you don’t believe Israel is committing horrific atrocities. It’s because you believe those horrific atrocities are good, and you want to see more of them.
Germany and Austria still have to support them, otherwise they instantly fight back with WW2 arguments which are all irrelevant by now.
Germany and Austria never de-Nazified. Their governments are fully on board with the extermination of Semitic people.
The Israeli Holocaust of the Palestinians is an extreme implementation of a policy of de-Arabization that Europeans have repeatedly endorsed across the continent.
So they are scared of words? That’s a pretty bullshit excuse.
Remember to never have respect for nearly any politician in congress no matter what party it is. Unless they spoke up they deserve less respect than dog shit.
